No Abu Ghraib horrors for them

NO NO NO!

BUSHITLER AND THE CONSERVATIVE CHIRSTIANS ARE THE DEVIL! GO BACK TO SLEEP.

/the voice of Taliban Jack whose head is so far up Hugo Chavez's ass it appeared Chavez was speaking.

From the article.
Three Muslim militants are also currently on death row for their part in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed more than 200 people.

So do you also think it's doubtful that these three received a fair trial?

My question is where is the outrage of the International Left? Always strangely silent about use of the death penalty anywhere except the US, when it is used only after trial by jury and numerous appeals and reviews. China executes an estimated 3,000-5,000 people a year -- they even have mobile execution vans. Not a wimper from the Left.

"So do you also think it's doubtful that these three received a fair trial?"

Robert, I'm sure they all received a fair trial, Christian and Muslim alike. It would be racist to suggest otherwise.

From the State Department report on human rights in Indonesia(http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61609.htm):

"Widespread corruption continued throughout the legal system. Bribes influenced prosecution, conviction, and sentencing in countless civil and criminal cases. The National Ombudsman Commission (KON) reported that 36 percent of complaints they received were related to judicial corruption, which involved judges, clerks, and lawyers. For example, former Aceh Governor Abdullah Puteh's attorney, Teuku Syaifuddin Popon, was caught delivering $25 thousand (250 million rupiah) to two Jakarta high court clerks, Ramadhan Rizal and Mochammad Soleh, to win his client's case. Popon, Rizal, and Soleh were all standing trial at year's end. On September 30, the Corruption Eradication Commission (KPK) arrested five employees of the Supreme Court and a lawyer in an alleged bribery incident involving Probosutedjo, the half-brother of former president Suharto."

I have fond memories of Bali when I visited there in 1986....

Three Muslim militants are also currently on death row for their part in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed more than 200 people.

So do you also think it's doubtful that these three received a fair trial?

Somehow I doubt the Christians killed 202 people - in fact, it sounds like they just attacked Muslims and didn't kill them. But somehow the comparison is valid in your mind.

The question isn't just the nature of the trials but of the sentences. The Bali bombers are merely in jail and will probably be free soon. Hell, the nutcase cleric who was behind the operation only served about 18 months and is openly preaching hatred and violence again.

* Pope Benedict. Nothing to apologize for.*

A fitting tagline for 99% of atrocities in the news today. = TG

And the last place anyone would want to go on vacation is......

I'm sure the trials are about as fair as they are anywhere else in the world.

Terrorists, not militants.
Let's get the terminology straight.

They weren't the ringleaders. I'm not even sure they were militants. They were arrested while evacuating a burning school.

They were the only ones ever prosecuted for a period of intense Muslim-Christian violence in which roughly equal numbers from each side participated. No Muslims were ever brought to trial.

This is the same community that saw 3 Christian schoolgirls beheaded nearly a year ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians#Attacks_on_Christians_by_Islamists_in_Indonesia

You can't be against Indonesia's 'kangaroo courts' for militants and, at the same time, support the Bush administrations absurd Gitmo-detention and foreign rendition programs. To oppose one and not the other is hypocritical.

Both persons, Muslim and Christian, are entitled to a fair trial. This is why I insist that those 'detainees' we currently hold should be moved, and quickly, to criminal detention centers where charges could be laid against them.

We cannot hold our own 'kangaroo courts' and thumb our noses at the Geneva convenetions and then expect our moral indignation to have any resonance when situations like this occur.