The G&M has an agenda, as do most of the other MSM services in Canada - Bash Harper, Bash the CPC. Get the 'Natural Governing Party, the Liberals, Back in Power. Ignore the corruption of the Liberals, ignore the lack of principles of the Liberals, ignore the lack of ethics, the lack of policies. They are, after all, 'natural'.
Note how the article claims that the RCMP commissioner 'surfaced publicly' implying clearly that the Commissioner had been deliberately hiding from the public.
As for the 'shake-hands' image, to rely only on televised coverage rather than factual reporting by the participants, is insulting. Effectively, the G&M is claiming, openly, that Mr. Day has deliberately, in his letter, lied to the G&M. Their evidence is that the television images don't show The Handshake. But, what if there was no television coverage of that particular interaction? Again - the B&M is openly claiming that Mr. Day is a liar. Hmmm.
I am sure that somewhere in the many photos taken that day by spectators, there is one showing this handshake. How much will the globe pay the owner not to publish it. Lib posters re Martins stmt in the comments at globe, say wait for a divided lib party to win a minority next election. Will they vote for Iggy, who supports Iraq, torture and Mr Bush. Where is their credibility. They also say that urban voters in Van, Montreal and TO will never vote for our PM. Lets wait till tomorrow and see that sea of RED supporting our troops and our govts actions. A lot of them will vote for the conservatives. Re Arar, has he ever been asked what torture he endured, or is that a question no to be asked, aka Clinton on Fox.
I am sure that somewhere in the many photos taken that day by spectators, there is one showing this handshake. How much will the globe pay the owner not to publish it. Lib posters re Martins stmt in the comments at globe, say wait for a divided lib party to win a minority next election. Will they vote for Iggy, who supports Iraq, torture and Mr Bush. Where is their credibility. They also say that urban voters in Van, Montreal and TO will never vote for our PM. Lets wait till tomorrow and see that sea of RED supporting our troops and our govts actions. A lot of them will vote for the conservatives. Re Arar, has he ever been asked what torture he endured, or is that a question no to be asked, aka Clinton on Fox.
I have to ask - why does the media think that THEY are the ones who should ask the questions when our government officials have to communicate to Canadians. The House of Commons is where the government talks to canadians. The opposition are the ones who are entrusted to ask the questions on our behalf. Committees of the house are another venue. Canadians can access government in so many other ways to get facts unfiltered. And, if WE have questions of the government we contact our MP.
The media is simply an obstacle to truth in my opinion. I am sick of CBC news broadcasting only the first few minutes of question period where government speaks to us and then cuts to Don Newman trying to tell us what HE says THEY said and HIS opinion rather then letting us see for ourselves.
I think the LAST people to be communicated to on behalf of Canadians is the media and even then we all see that they screw so badly with the truth that all we get is a mangled story and fabrications and opinions from those popular unamed sources.
A Globe & Mail article today in the science section states that the average human brain weighs 130 grams. They must have arrived at that figure measuring the average weight of their own brains at the Globe & Mail.
Librano$, aka the AdScam Martin Liberal government, scoffed $250 million of your money; missing; not accounted for; stolen.
How will G&M fudge this? ...-
To date more than $6 billion has been promised for climate change programs. Despite a claim last year that the [Liberal AdScam Martin] government had spent $1.6 billion to that point on a variety of initiatives, it could not account for $250 million of that spending.
Environmental Commissoner: taxpayers on the hook for $1billion
By ALAN FINDLAY, SUN MEDIA
Thank god for blogs. If not for them, I would never have found out about this issue. And again Stephen Taylor catches the media in an out and out lie. Good, no great work Stephen.
It saddens me that the Globe and Mail would stoop so low in their quest to fulfill their anti-CPC agenda.
I can proudly state that I have not purchased a G&M paper for quite a number of years. In fact, when I fly Westjet (frequently), they often offer it as a free selection amongst a number of different papers. I won't even take a copy of it as I don't want anything to do with improving the circulation numbers of that rag. Their response to Day's office is incredible, but simply confirms my stance has been the correct one.
Does anyone have an e-mail address for the G & M, I would like to express my disgust with them.
What a rag. Did anyone see the piece on CTV? Did they imply the same? Is this laziness, stupidity or worse, on the part of this reporter?
I don't know if anyone's seen it yet, but Stephen has an update to this.
Re: Arar. I can see why the government wasn't ready to publicly apologize at first. $400 million is an obscene amount.
mary; I'm usually loathe to reccomend CBC but their archives are very good. Here is a link to Arar's statement Nov./04:http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/arar_statement.html
Do you really doubt he was tortured? Does anyone? I never have, but what is it worth? For the record it was the past Liberal Government that did this to him. As for the current government, publicly apologizing, let's be fair.
Bill Graham had claimed that he was assured by the Syrian government that Arar was NOT tortured.
Good point - the only so called proof we have of this is Arar's word to justify $400 MILLION of the taxpayer's money. Hmmmmmm. And if the Government of canada FORMALLY apologizes that would be legally binding as admitting guilt to help with the civil claim. And, Arar's WIFE ran for the NDP and the NDP are screaming for an apology BEFORE the civil claim is settled?
I think Bill Graham should re-iterate that he was informed by Syria that Arar was NOT tortured and then work back from there before any money is paid.
Is $400 million FAIR??? It is our money. What would every man, woman and child pay to this guy for his ordeal? And Syria? Arar is STILL a citizen of this country? And THEY tortured him he says. Maybe Syria should pay Arar - not Canada.Or, maybe since the Globe & Mail is so pro-apology pro-Arar THEY should pay. After all, it WAS the media who sullied Arar's name.
Obviously Arar deseves something,but what?I would think that any of the recent settled lawsuits in Canada for those wrongly convicted and who served time in prison should be a fair comparison.
One thing i don't get.The libs and dippers yell and scream everyday about filing an objection with the U.S.Why not scream about doing that to Syria.Can't be for political reasons.Nah.
"Despite the report's hard-hitting language, Dion told CBC News he supported it and Gélinas's call for much stronger policies. He also called into question Prime Minister Stephen Harper's environmental policies.
"The prime minister does not believe in the science of climate change,"
Dion said,
describing it as "the worst ecological threat that humanity is facing."
Dion said if he succeeds in winning his party's leadership this fall and goes on to win a federal election, he would
"implement an even better plan." cbc
........
TDH Strategies does not fudge:
September 27, 2006 - Stéphane Dion is coming on Don Newman's Politics program to explain why criticism of the Liberals' environmental record helps his campaign. Huh? Stay tuned...
September 27, 2006 - Stéphane Dion never seemed to explain how exactly Ms. Johanne Gelinas' report helps his campaign, although he is obviously still enamoured with his flawed Project Green plan, and offered this statement to the television audience:
"I want to do less,
I want to do more,
and that is why I am running to become Prime Minister of Canada." (paraphrased, bien sur)
Canadian 'journalists' are Canada's biggest Cowards - they do hit pieces on all the usual suspects and praise themselves for it, pretending to be brave.
They are cowards because they live in fear of their peer group, that's why they would never ask a tough question to a person who represents their peer group. Cowards.
No, I don't believe Arar was tortured, he still has his head, he shows no signs of broken bones, he did not look malnurished when he surfaced, his back didn't have marks on it that he showed. What was the torture, lights on all day and night, isolation, listening to Celine or other music he may not have chosen, or maybe he had to have a body search. Or maybe he didn't get a Koran and prayer mat that we give these terrorists.That is ridicule, not torture. Has he given up his Syrian passport, I doubt it. All dual citizens in Canada, with passports to the mid-east better pay attention to the latest bill passed by Congress and the Senate. Has an item in it about detaining non citizens for no reason and holding them without trial till the war on terror is over. Guess they don't want Arar types and Khdar types visiting. As far as I am concerned he and his lawyers are just trying to scam Canada, with the aid of the libs. Too bad they are out of power or we would never have found out about it.
The G & M is an establishment paper, the Liberal establishment. Thje Red Star is the [party organ.
The current Conservative government is inherently anti-establishment. We should not be surprised or expect any other behaviour. This is 1838 and 1848 combined. The Conservatives are the anti-establishment party. And rightly so; given what the establishment has failed to achieve during "Canada's Century" the 20th.
Back to the topic "at hand" as it were, did the MSM not realize that Stock and the Commish used the secret handshake? The one reserved for only members of the highest order of.... oops, I've said too much already.
Notice how the MSM are really really really avoiding the obvious - Anne McLellan and Bill Graham really really really screwed up. The O'Conner report references this and the only place I have read anything about dear Annie's role is in the Edmonton Journal - not even a headline. Or, how about CSIS? Or how about the media themselves who are the very ones who created the headlines about Arar that kept the story that he was a terror risk going?
And now it is US, the taxpayer who takes a $400 million hit? How about a few defamation suits to the media by Arar for the lazy media who themselves did not do due diligence in their reporting? And...it continues.
I wonder how long before that 400 million if awarded will come around and bit us in the rear?
Lets see all the records that Arar's lawyer has on this Syrian refugee , I still curious on why a refugee gets a Canadian Passport and then vacations back in the area they fled .
Just seems to me 400 million would go a long way toward buying that maniac in Iraq that 'dirty bomb jihad' he's ranting about these days...or other such killing devices they are so fond of... lost of money for beheading videos and all around mayhem.
Arar can sue Syria and go back there too as far as I am concerned. If he is a dual citizen of Canada and Syria... send him back to Syria to work it all out with them. IF it is Syria who tortured him it is Syria who should pay.
As to the G&M: Our minister Day's letter should seal the deal with those morons and a public apology to both the RCMP Commissioner and Stockwell Day is in order. Not now, but RIGHT now!
How long are they going to play the 'psuedo' news game before they get 'Dan Rathered'??
The above c/p's should not have been posted on this thread. They were meant for another blog. Too many panes open here at the same time. Please delete same.
Interesting it seems that video footage is required for something to be proven to the G&M except if you are a retired RCMP officer with a hunch that the Chief of the RCMP is being muzzled. Then your word is taken as gospel and the G&M requires no proof at all in order to print your assumptions.
It reminds me of the joke about the man accused of theft standing before the judge. "How do you plead, guilty or not guilty? And remember, we have five witnesses who saw you do it." "Not guilty your Honour, I have eight people who didn't see me do it."
Globe and Mail: All the news that fits we print.
Also, don't Bell Media own BOTH the Globe and CTV? This central ownership of news distribution is what CRTC should be looking at not the nationality of pop singers.
Another dirty lying liberal rag tell its bunk DARN YOU DONT YOU EVEN THINK OF PUTTING THAT PAPER IN MY CAGE I WILL GET VIOLENT I,LL PICK OUT SOMEONNES EYES SQUAWK SQUAWK
From a post over at Stephen Taylor's, a correction in the G&M this morning:
"A front page story Monday about RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli stated that Mr. Zaccardelli and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day did not speak with each other at a Parliament Hill ceremony to honour police officers slain on duty. In fact, both men say they spoke and shook hands after the ceremony. The Globe and Mail regrets the error."
Of course, the damage is done, because how many readers, or those who don't even read the G&M, have registered Stockwell Day's alleged snub of Commissioner Zaccardelli?
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The G&M has an agenda, as do most of the other MSM services in Canada - Bash Harper, Bash the CPC. Get the 'Natural Governing Party, the Liberals, Back in Power. Ignore the corruption of the Liberals, ignore the lack of principles of the Liberals, ignore the lack of ethics, the lack of policies. They are, after all, 'natural'.
Note how the article claims that the RCMP commissioner 'surfaced publicly' implying clearly that the Commissioner had been deliberately hiding from the public.
As for the 'shake-hands' image, to rely only on televised coverage rather than factual reporting by the participants, is insulting. Effectively, the G&M is claiming, openly, that Mr. Day has deliberately, in his letter, lied to the G&M. Their evidence is that the television images don't show The Handshake. But, what if there was no television coverage of that particular interaction? Again - the B&M is openly claiming that Mr. Day is a liar. Hmmm.
I am sure that somewhere in the many photos taken that day by spectators, there is one showing this handshake. How much will the globe pay the owner not to publish it. Lib posters re Martins stmt in the comments at globe, say wait for a divided lib party to win a minority next election. Will they vote for Iggy, who supports Iraq, torture and Mr Bush. Where is their credibility. They also say that urban voters in Van, Montreal and TO will never vote for our PM. Lets wait till tomorrow and see that sea of RED supporting our troops and our govts actions. A lot of them will vote for the conservatives. Re Arar, has he ever been asked what torture he endured, or is that a question no to be asked, aka Clinton on Fox.
I am sure that somewhere in the many photos taken that day by spectators, there is one showing this handshake. How much will the globe pay the owner not to publish it. Lib posters re Martins stmt in the comments at globe, say wait for a divided lib party to win a minority next election. Will they vote for Iggy, who supports Iraq, torture and Mr Bush. Where is their credibility. They also say that urban voters in Van, Montreal and TO will never vote for our PM. Lets wait till tomorrow and see that sea of RED supporting our troops and our govts actions. A lot of them will vote for the conservatives. Re Arar, has he ever been asked what torture he endured, or is that a question no to be asked, aka Clinton on Fox.
I have to ask - why does the media think that THEY are the ones who should ask the questions when our government officials have to communicate to Canadians. The House of Commons is where the government talks to canadians. The opposition are the ones who are entrusted to ask the questions on our behalf. Committees of the house are another venue. Canadians can access government in so many other ways to get facts unfiltered. And, if WE have questions of the government we contact our MP.
The media is simply an obstacle to truth in my opinion. I am sick of CBC news broadcasting only the first few minutes of question period where government speaks to us and then cuts to Don Newman trying to tell us what HE says THEY said and HIS opinion rather then letting us see for ourselves.
I think the LAST people to be communicated to on behalf of Canadians is the media and even then we all see that they screw so badly with the truth that all we get is a mangled story and fabrications and opinions from those popular unamed sources.
A Globe & Mail article today in the science section states that the average human brain weighs 130 grams. They must have arrived at that figure measuring the average weight of their own brains at the Globe & Mail.
Librano$, aka the AdScam Martin Liberal government, scoffed $250 million of your money; missing; not accounted for; stolen.
How will G&M fudge this? ...-
To date more than $6 billion has been promised for climate change programs. Despite a claim last year that the [Liberal AdScam Martin] government had spent $1.6 billion to that point on a variety of initiatives, it could not account for $250 million of that spending.
Environmental Commissoner: taxpayers on the hook for $1billion
By ALAN FINDLAY, SUN MEDIA
Thank god for blogs. If not for them, I would never have found out about this issue. And again Stephen Taylor catches the media in an out and out lie. Good, no great work Stephen.
It saddens me that the Globe and Mail would stoop so low in their quest to fulfill their anti-CPC agenda.
I can proudly state that I have not purchased a G&M paper for quite a number of years. In fact, when I fly Westjet (frequently), they often offer it as a free selection amongst a number of different papers. I won't even take a copy of it as I don't want anything to do with improving the circulation numbers of that rag. Their response to Day's office is incredible, but simply confirms my stance has been the correct one.
Does anyone have an e-mail address for the G & M, I would like to express my disgust with them.
What a rag. Did anyone see the piece on CTV? Did they imply the same? Is this laziness, stupidity or worse, on the part of this reporter?
I don't know if anyone's seen it yet, but Stephen has an update to this.
Re: Arar. I can see why the government wasn't ready to publicly apologize at first. $400 million is an obscene amount.
mary; I'm usually loathe to reccomend CBC but their archives are very good. Here is a link to Arar's statement Nov./04:http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/arar_statement.html
Do you really doubt he was tortured? Does anyone? I never have, but what is it worth? For the record it was the past Liberal Government that did this to him. As for the current government, publicly apologizing, let's be fair.
Bill Graham had claimed that he was assured by the Syrian government that Arar was NOT tortured.
Good point - the only so called proof we have of this is Arar's word to justify $400 MILLION of the taxpayer's money. Hmmmmmm. And if the Government of canada FORMALLY apologizes that would be legally binding as admitting guilt to help with the civil claim. And, Arar's WIFE ran for the NDP and the NDP are screaming for an apology BEFORE the civil claim is settled?
I think Bill Graham should re-iterate that he was informed by Syria that Arar was NOT tortured and then work back from there before any money is paid.
Is $400 million FAIR??? It is our money. What would every man, woman and child pay to this guy for his ordeal? And Syria? Arar is STILL a citizen of this country? And THEY tortured him he says. Maybe Syria should pay Arar - not Canada.Or, maybe since the Globe & Mail is so pro-apology pro-Arar THEY should pay. After all, it WAS the media who sullied Arar's name.
O don't understand all the fuss....I read in the G&M there WAS no political bias in the media?
Obviously Arar deseves something,but what?I would think that any of the recent settled lawsuits in Canada for those wrongly convicted and who served time in prison should be a fair comparison.
One thing i don't get.The libs and dippers yell and scream everyday about filing an objection with the U.S.Why not scream about doing that to Syria.Can't be for political reasons.Nah.
Dion, Mr. Minister of Doless-Domore, on fudge:
Moi? Me, known know nuffin. ...-
"Despite the report's hard-hitting language, Dion told CBC News he supported it and Gélinas's call for much stronger policies. He also called into question Prime Minister Stephen Harper's environmental policies.
"The prime minister does not believe in the science of climate change,"
Dion said,
describing it as "the worst ecological threat that humanity is facing."
Dion said if he succeeds in winning his party's leadership this fall and goes on to win a federal election, he would
"implement an even better plan." cbc
........
TDH Strategies does not fudge:
September 27, 2006 - Stéphane Dion is coming on Don Newman's Politics program to explain why criticism of the Liberals' environmental record helps his campaign. Huh? Stay tuned...
September 27, 2006 - Stéphane Dion never seemed to explain how exactly Ms. Johanne Gelinas' report helps his campaign, although he is obviously still enamoured with his flawed Project Green plan, and offered this statement to the television audience:
"I want to do less,
I want to do more,
and that is why I am running to become Prime Minister of Canada." (paraphrased, bien sur)
Once again an SDA thread is hijacked to off topic BS.
Canadian 'journalists' are Canada's biggest Cowards - they do hit pieces on all the usual suspects and praise themselves for it, pretending to be brave.
They are cowards because they live in fear of their peer group, that's why they would never ask a tough question to a person who represents their peer group. Cowards.
No, I don't believe Arar was tortured, he still has his head, he shows no signs of broken bones, he did not look malnurished when he surfaced, his back didn't have marks on it that he showed. What was the torture, lights on all day and night, isolation, listening to Celine or other music he may not have chosen, or maybe he had to have a body search. Or maybe he didn't get a Koran and prayer mat that we give these terrorists.That is ridicule, not torture. Has he given up his Syrian passport, I doubt it. All dual citizens in Canada, with passports to the mid-east better pay attention to the latest bill passed by Congress and the Senate. Has an item in it about detaining non citizens for no reason and holding them without trial till the war on terror is over. Guess they don't want Arar types and Khdar types visiting. As far as I am concerned he and his lawyers are just trying to scam Canada, with the aid of the libs. Too bad they are out of power or we would never have found out about it.
The Globe has real journalistic problems:
"China and the Conservatives: Internal war at the Globe and Mail"
www.damianpenny.com/archived/007681.html
Editor-in-Chief Greenspon seems unwilling--or maybe happy not--to rein in his staff, especially news and letters, with an agenda.
See also:
"Afstan: The Globe's agenda secret no more--it's a 'quagmire'"
www.damianpenny.com/archived/006644.html
Mark
Ottawa
The G & M is an establishment paper, the Liberal establishment. Thje Red Star is the [party organ.
The current Conservative government is inherently anti-establishment. We should not be surprised or expect any other behaviour. This is 1838 and 1848 combined. The Conservatives are the anti-establishment party. And rightly so; given what the establishment has failed to achieve during "Canada's Century" the 20th.
Back to the topic "at hand" as it were, did the MSM not realize that Stock and the Commish used the secret handshake? The one reserved for only members of the highest order of.... oops, I've said too much already.
Notice how the MSM are really really really avoiding the obvious - Anne McLellan and Bill Graham really really really screwed up. The O'Conner report references this and the only place I have read anything about dear Annie's role is in the Edmonton Journal - not even a headline. Or, how about CSIS? Or how about the media themselves who are the very ones who created the headlines about Arar that kept the story that he was a terror risk going?
And now it is US, the taxpayer who takes a $400 million hit? How about a few defamation suits to the media by Arar for the lazy media who themselves did not do due diligence in their reporting? And...it continues.
Simple: He a duel citizen let him sue Syria.
yeah was this guy really tortured?
I want proof.
I wonder how long before that 400 million if awarded will come around and bit us in the rear?
Lets see all the records that Arar's lawyer has on this Syrian refugee , I still curious on why a refugee gets a Canadian Passport and then vacations back in the area they fled .
something smells big time
Just seems to me 400 million would go a long way toward buying that maniac in Iraq that 'dirty bomb jihad' he's ranting about these days...or other such killing devices they are so fond of... lost of money for beheading videos and all around mayhem.
Arar can sue Syria and go back there too as far as I am concerned. If he is a dual citizen of Canada and Syria... send him back to Syria to work it all out with them. IF it is Syria who tortured him it is Syria who should pay.
As to the G&M: Our minister Day's letter should seal the deal with those morons and a public apology to both the RCMP Commissioner and Stockwell Day is in order. Not now, but RIGHT now!
How long are they going to play the 'psuedo' news game before they get 'Dan Rathered'??
Mea Culpa.
Please accept this apology.
The above c/p's should not have been posted on this thread. They were meant for another blog. Too many panes open here at the same time. Please delete same.
Interesting it seems that video footage is required for something to be proven to the G&M except if you are a retired RCMP officer with a hunch that the Chief of the RCMP is being muzzled. Then your word is taken as gospel and the G&M requires no proof at all in order to print your assumptions.
As opposed to all other media outlets, present company included.
I'd rather you let us know when something in our media is confirmed true.
It reminds me of the joke about the man accused of theft standing before the judge. "How do you plead, guilty or not guilty? And remember, we have five witnesses who saw you do it." "Not guilty your Honour, I have eight people who didn't see me do it."
Globe and Mail: All the news that fits we print.
(Tongue firmly in cheek). It is clear that Arar was not tortured because there are no pictures!
Also, don't Bell Media own BOTH the Globe and CTV? This central ownership of news distribution is what CRTC should be looking at not the nationality of pop singers.
Another dirty lying liberal rag tell its bunk DARN YOU DONT YOU EVEN THINK OF PUTTING THAT PAPER IN MY CAGE I WILL GET VIOLENT I,LL PICK OUT SOMEONNES EYES SQUAWK SQUAWK
I wrote to the Probe and Fail this morning to tell them what I thought of their "fanstastic nonsense," among other things.
If you want to e-mail them, here's their address:
Newsroom@globeandmail.com
From a post over at Stephen Taylor's, a correction in the G&M this morning:
"A front page story Monday about RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli stated that Mr. Zaccardelli and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day did not speak with each other at a Parliament Hill ceremony to honour police officers slain on duty. In fact, both men say they spoke and shook hands after the ceremony. The Globe and Mail regrets the error."
Of course, the damage is done, because how many readers, or those who don't even read the G&M, have registered Stockwell Day's alleged snub of Commissioner Zaccardelli?
Too many, probably.