Be It Resolved

I disagree, in front of a highballing train would be
far more efficient.

You might damage a perfectly good train.

Let the NDP hang themselves. They are doing an excellent job.

It seems that Stephen Taylor's website has ben shut down. Does anyone know where else thier policy may be?

Something up with the link?

Here, I'm a step ahead of today's troll:

I LOVE
Marxism
Socialism
Collectivism
Appeasement
Islamonazis
Feminazis
Homonazis
Fascism\Communism
Junk Science
Glow Ball Vorming
Coughing Anus/Useless Nations
Rain Forest Granola Crunch
Cats

I HATE
The Greeks
The Romans
The Jews
Christianity
The Renaissance
Science
Liberty
Freedom
Personal Responsibility
Representative Democracy
A good steak
Dogs

Care to add anything?

I hope they resolve to have Jack Layton implement his peace plan for Afghanistan - Jack thinks that talks with the Taliban are required to bring peace, so obviously he must know just what to say to them in order to get them to stop providing a base for international terrorist operations.

The film of Jack riding his bicycle towards the Taliban for talks will remind everyone of Jack's grandstanding antics in Toronto, but at least this time he will be implementing world peace. Thanks Jack! Don't delay!

No Kate. We need the NDP to continue to pull at the Move On.Org eh section of the Liberal party. The ones that are in the Liberals so they can gain the power to implement the NDP platform.

Rip the Liberal party from the left. It will provide some clarity. No mushy middle.

Of course the danger is they might actually win someday.....

http://smalldeadcannibals.blogspot.com/

Working now. I think he had a server fart earlier due to volume of hits.

Only so much of that can I read before I get that vomit taste in the back of my throat.

kate...
just a suggestion... but i think you should post once a day each of the items of the NDP manifesto. just to keep it avaiable for the public to see what they are really about.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the New Democratic Party of Canada supports the principle of representation by two members per constituency, one woman and one man.

MISSISSAUGA-ERINDALE NDP.

[sic]

http://www.stephentaylor.ca/

Here is one of my favorite quotes from Tommy Douglas, aka the Prairie Nazi;" Against whom are we arming? What potential aggressor is more aggressive today? Oh, I know bogeymen have been trotted out in this chamber. It has been suggested that it might be Italy, it might be Germany, it might be Japan." Hansard, 1937 pp 1059 and 1063.

Proves that over the last 70 years the CCF/NDP haven't learnt a damn thing about foreign policy.

"I HATE
The Greeks
The Romans
The Jews
Christianity
The Renaissance
Science
Liberty
Freedom
Personal Responsibility
Representative Democracy
A good steak
Dogs

Care to add anything?"

Correction:

We Hate the Greeks other than Zerb and George Stromboulopoulos

Even us Greeks hate those Greeks....

Whereas the NDP stand for nothing remotely resembling sane or reasoned thought....

Be It Resolved: that any and all NDP members and supporters be forced into pillories located in public places to be struck with rotten vegetables.

Uh-oh. Must. Keep. From. Power.

That use of language and the tone is really odd. THe strings of WHEREAS's followed by a complete dog's breakfast of buzzwords and funded statistics and union-caregiver language -- it's a bizarre and slightly eerie way of er, organizing.

The ND's are always the strongest supporters of those causes -- gay empowerment, taxpayers being forced to subsidize urbanite's child-care -- that are most anathema to traditional families, but that's okay, because their larger concern is to create a loving home environment at the state level. That concern that reasonable people have for their own dependents, the Dippers express for way more people each time they shout "Show me the money!"

"WHEREAS there is a strong positive correlation between youth being involved in community activities and their disengagement from anti-social or illegal behaviours..." apparently they will create a funded parenting-state that will dispense funds to ensure a "positive developmental environment" that is "wecloming" and "safe".

Un, no thanks, saw some of the last century.

"THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the New Democratic Party of Canada supports the principle of representation by two members per constituency, one woman and one man.

MISSISSAUGA-ERINDALE NDP."

That's not good enough. There should be one brown person, one black person, one white person, one native american, a person below the poverty line, a newfoundlander because maritimers are cool. Alberta will henceforth get one member only. Oh and one dog.

We want it equal right? You know, we're colorblind and asexual, us Dippers.

Also the person who comes in last in the vote count should have a bonus of 5000 votes in fairness, while the person who comes out on top should have a voting impairment (we prefer not to use the word handi-cap).

Doug (9:34)... ditto.
Oh, say, do the NDP still have that "nationalize Tim Hortons" plank in their policy "manifesto" if they gain power?

WHEREAS the war on Iraq was based on the threat of weapons of mass destruction, and
WHEREAS there are not and were not any weapons of mass destruction; and
WHEREAS the Canadian mission in Afghanistan helped support the war in Iraq and the bigger
picture which includes the control of oil in that region; and
WHEREAS the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan is a mission of military occupation;
and
WHEREAS this mission aids the Americans and the transnational oil corporations in their lust
for control of oil; and
WHEREAS war resisters in Canada are bravely communicating their difficult conscientious
decision to abandon the amoral Iraqi war,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the NDP actively advocates for the immediate end of
the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan.

WELLAND NDP261

WHEREAS the current commitment of the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan is not a
multi-national peacekeeping force under the principles of the United Nations;
The conditions and commitment undertaken in that mission are in stark contrast to
what Canadians believe to be the international role of our military;
There was neither a public discussion, nor a Parliamentary debate about a change in
role for the military; and
There has never been any public discussion or analysis to see if the Karzai
government stands up to Canadian standards of democracy,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that no Federal New Democratic Members of Parliament
cast any vote that either 1) supports any government motion that drastically changes the role
of the Canadian Armed Forces or enlarges its scope beyond its formerly established
peacekeeping role, or 2) directs the expenditure of money for commitments that represents a
dramatic departure from traditionally understood elements of Canadian Foreign policy.

WELLAND NDP262

How about the NDP policy statement allowing passenger planes to fly through Canadian air space ONLY if they happen to be flying with a tailwind (that'll fix bloody Exxon!)... is that one still listed in the policy book?

Jeez, Skip, even Hitchens pulled his head out over Iraq and Afghanistan.

[...]
The NDP recognizes Quebec's right to self-determination, which implies the right of the
people of Quebec to decide freely its own political and Constitutional future. This right can be expressed in various ways and can go as far as achieving sovereignty.
[...]
Although the NDP opposed the reference to the Supreme Court, the panel notes that the court's judgment did in fact reinforce the long-standing NDP view that the future of Quebec within Canada is ultimately a political question and not a legal one (SDFCF, page 25)
Therefore, the NDP is committed to respect, in all its dealings, the Loi quebecoise sur la Consultation populaire (Qubec Referendum Act). Also, the NDP would recognize a majority
decision (50% + 1) of the Quebec people in the event of a referendum on the political status of
Quebec.
[...]

"to see if the Karzai government stands up to Canadian standards of democracy"

Here I thought NDPeers thought so highly of the brown man. That is, until he wants democracy.

Now THAT'S Racism.

I don't get it skip...are you trying to convince someone that the dippers make sense...or are these axamples you provide just fuel for the mocking??

I don't get it skip...are you trying to convince someone that the dippers make sense...or are these examples you provide just fuel for the mocking??

Neue Dampfmaschine Program = NDP

Translated from Karl Marx's german:

New Steam Engine Program, you either drive the train or become part of the railbed.

"I don't get it skip...are you trying to convince someone that the dippers make sense...or are these examples you provide just fuel for the mocking??"

Just a couple of excerpts - where they purport to stand on A'stan, where they stand on the integrity of the country. Ascertaining a common policy out of all the draft resolutions is difficult. The majority of Canadians who have an opinion will not read it, good or bad. I can't afford their vision, nor do I subscribe to it. Scattered amongst the dross and special interest resolutions (which form the bulk of it), is the odd nugget of a decent idea, hopelessly buried.
What I see after going through it all is a gay, possibly bi-sexual, elected senator, recently immigrated, riding its bicycle back and forth between Toronto and Ottawa, dropping off somebody's kids at regular intervals in taxpayer funded daycare centres being run by the friends of Kofi Annan.

Be it resolved that members chip in and get Jack a new bike.

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the New Democratic Party of Canada supports the principle of representation by two members per constituency, one woman and one man.

What do they have against same-sex representation?....Bigots!

I think ya nailed it with your last sentence, Skip.
Does anyone know if the NDP would have any aversion to mailing me, say, 500 printed copies?
I presume they're free... gotta be cheaper than Charmin.

These resolutions are so sophomoric that they are not worthy of SDA, let alone Canadian political debate.

Skip, your last sentence comes awfully close to being too funny. Yes, it is possible.

Keep it down, svp, for those who've been abandoned by the state and by the world's government.

Why is it,that whenever I see or hear Jack Layton,my head wants to explode???Truly painful...I guess that's the "wrongheadedness" he is always talking about...WTF does that mean anyway? Sammy

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WHEREAS Canada has signed both the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights and the
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which include the right of each person to the
inheritance of humanity�s culture and to the fulfillment of their own potential,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the NDP declares and strives to uphold the principle
that every child has the right to nurture and upbringing which affirms the child�s right to its
own innate sexual orientation and to its own sense of sexual identity, and that protecting these
rights is a responsibility of the institutions of Canadian society.

And what culture would that be, the richness of sexual behavior as described in Kraft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis?

Those who advocate prohibition of discrimination based on sexual orientation seem to be surprisingly ignorant of sexual pathology. In the past I've derived much amusement when I suggested to such people that once the sexual discrimination laws they want are passed, they should next work on removing restrictions on livestock in cities. Bestiality is just as valid a sexual orientation as homosexuality and far safer as I haven't heard of a single case of HIV transmitted between sheep and man. The usual approach of people when I make this comment is "bestiality is illegal", but once I remind them that not that long ago homosexual acts were also illegal and that in our enlightened society we should strive to break down legal prohibitions on some peoples inate desire for inter-species sexual contact, usually they decline to continue the discussion. I've never had a need to bring up paraphilias, exhibitionism, sadomasochism and much more of the rich pathology of human sexual orientations which must be protected from censure by the enenlightened among us.

NAMBLA is probably a strong supporter of this NDP resolution as they know with absolute certainty that the inate desire of young male children is to engage in sexual activity with older males. This "innate sexual orientation" may require a little work to be released, but with enough toys and candy, young boys will live up to their sexual potential in keeping with the wishes of the UN and other progressive groups. Another NDP resolution proposes opposition to the right-wing fascist war-mongering agenda of raising the age of sexual consent, and I'm sure that NAMBLA will be voting 100% for the NDP in the next election.

All this talk of pull out of Afghanistan was so predictable. I talked with friends right after Harper won and we all agreed this would be the strategy of the opposition. PUKE!!!

'let us go to the matresses'

WHEREAS....The United States was ATTACKED. ( and by association, one must assume, Britain,Canada, Australia and other nationalities whose people were in the twin towers when they were attacked, not to mention who may have been aboard all the planes used in the attacks on the twin towers, the pentagon and on United 93.
WHEREAS , therefore and inasmuch.. WAR was declared on a peaceful and innocent people..
WHEREAS for at least twenty years previously (and in earnest in the last 8 years leading up to and including 9/11/2001) terrorists provoked and attacked with impunity.
That ended that day and we have been taking it to the enemy ever since.
WHEREAS the liberal party and the ndp'ers fail miserably to realize any of this , favouring law enforcement ( which both parties have proven beyond doubt a total incompetence and ineptness for ) as the tool of favour. Even CSIS failed pathetically and continues to fail us in even the most rudimentary tasks.
WHEREAS...Jack Layton and the NDP cannot possibly be given any responsibility whatsoever. They are worse than the libs. They have absolutely no competence. Jack Layton's latest musings prove that beyond doubt. Nor can they handle money at all. They give it away to maintain the welfare state and the libs will steal it ....

IF the libs get back in they raise taxes and give all our money away to their friends and pretend they don't know anything about it.
WHEREAS the children ( libs and nippers)must not get their hands on the controls of this country.
WHEREAS in a time of war we need adults ( the Conservatives) running the show and that includes the military staying in Afghanistan and taking seriously the threat to this nation terror represents!

WHEREAS the New Democratic Party had its origin in the minds and hearts of people who
wanted to make the world a better place; and
WHEREAS increasingly the world which best describes the world in which we live is �corrupt�,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that in the society to be proposed by the New Democratic
Party there shall be, at a minimum:
1. Equal numbers of women and men representatives in legislatures and all governing bodies;
2. Absence of control of the media by the rich, government, or any special interest group;
3. Elections uninfluenced by the rich, and based on principles rather than posturing;
4. Accountability between elections of representatives to their constituents;
5. Total elimination of spin doctors, consultants and speech writers, so that all policy arises from
a genuine concern for justice and so that tax dollars are spent on programs instead of a
manipulation of the masses.

I remain curious how they intend to effect such a change.

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WHEREAS corporations in Canada have the legal status of persons without the
responsibilities; and
WHEREAS citizens of Canada are subject to and benefit from the provisions of the Charter of
Rights and Freedoms; and
WHEREAS the prevalence of poverty, homelessness and insecurity has become a marked
feature of our society since government sees its role to respond more to corporate interests
than to citizen needs and concerns,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the New Democratic Party seek to amend the Charter
of Rights and Freedoms:
a) by including (Section 1, para.2) corporations as bodies to which the Charter applies;
b) by adding to Section 6 (2) a further subsection c) providing for the right of every citizen to
an income adequate to enable the citizen to live in dignity and to enjoy a life free from poverty.

WINNIPEG NORTH NDP

And to be honest the last one scares the crap out of me.

Maybe the Taliban would hijack Jack and hold him to ransom.

"Maybe the Taliban would hijack Jack and hold him to ransom".

What, and threaten to release him if we don't pay up?

Jack Layton and his NDP are such a joke they even refuse to aknowledge my emails to them - emails regarding what the tired NDP government in saskatchewan has done to me. No response from them despite many emails sent.

Really - i have direct experiance with the 'dark side' of the NDP 'republic' - of course saskatchewan is the home of the C.C.F who later became N.D.P. - yes - they have 'socialized' everything here - including our rights - which they see as endlessly mutable variables.

Jack Layton is a joke - there is only one thing he did that was good - he helped induce the election that brought a real party to power - that brought a real leader into the chief executive.

Red Star cheers Jack "Taliban" Layton; supports Muslim Islamist terrorism.

The Socialist Power Corp. Liberal Party of Toronto calls for a Canadian surrender.

Left liberal/socialists are allied with the Taliban, aka Muslim Islamist terrorists. ...-

Analysis: Harper has botched Afghan issue
Toronto Star - 2 hours ago
OTTAWA—If a federal election had taken place yesterday, the Afghan mission would likely have cost Stephen Harper his government. Against the backdrop of a weekend of multiple Canadian casualties topped by ...

NDP: one riding association proposes a freeze on trade with Israel until the "occupation of Palestinian lands" is ended.

The complete left liberal/socialist Manifesto is complete with the above resolution.

The NDP is anti-Israel, anti-Jewish; Jewhaters.

NDP: The communist party of Canada. Uncle Joe Stalin/Trudeau/Douglas/Castro, et al, are proud of them. ...-

The NDP will pick up seats next election due to their superior foreign policy. The Tories will lose seats due to their preposterous foreign policy. That is a mathematical certainty. Laugh all you want at the silly Dippers now, because as Canada's only party capable of cashing in on the electorate's widespread dissatisfaction with the "war" on "terror" they are poised to clean up next election, and no amount of angry, angry words posted on the internet will change that, folks.

Bob,

I agree with parts of what you say. The NDP will pick up votes and likely seats. The CPC wont lose seats. The NDP and CPC will be carving up the Liberal roast.

The NDP gets the MoveOn.org eh types and the CPC will gwt some of the economic conservatives in the Liberal party. The right wing of the Liberal party will be the last to abandon ship though.

Fun watching the destruction of the Liberal party. Then the next fun will be watching the NDP tear itself apart 10 years from now as the "left left" leaves them in a fit of pique because the leader tries to moderate them to win power.

Bob, get used to a generation of CPC government.

Canada desperately needs the NDP and its supporters.
If only for comic relief. Just read Bob's comment above. HAR HAR HAR. You're always good for a belly laugh Bob.

The phrase "stuck on stupid" comes to mind.

UPDATE: CP picks up the story. From the Montreal Gazette:

OTTAWA -- Quebec members of the NDP hope to win the hearts of francophones by proposing that Canada become a republic and by adopting a conciliatory tone with sovereigntists.
They are two resolutions that will be put forward at the 22nd biennial New Democratic convention, which begins Friday in Quebec City.

The party hasn't yet released the motions that will be debated at the national convention, but conservative blogger Stephen Taylor obtained and released them Tuesday on his website.

The motion that risks being most controversial would see the NDP lead an active campaign to remove Queen Elizabeth as head of state. ...-
http://www.stephentaylor.ca/

"The CPC wont lose seats."

False, and I can name the ridings they will lose:

In Quebec: Beauport--Limoilou, Charlesbourg--Haute-Saint-Charles, Jonqiere-Alma, Lévis--Bellechasse, Lotbinière--Chutes-de-la-Chaudière, Louis-Hébert, Mégantic--L'Érable, and the Pontiac. Only Bernier and Verner will keep their seats.

That's 8 seats lost for the Tories right there, just in 1 province.

In Ontario, John Baird is gone. So is Tony Clement. Other ridings the CPC are likely to lose include Burlington, Barrie, Halton (Garth barely won last time, now he has to run on Afghanistan), Glengarry-Prescott-Russell, Niagara Falls, Northumberland-Quinte West (CFB Trenton wives will finish the Tories), Oshawa, Peterborough, Simcoe North, Whitby_Oshawa. And I haven't included Diane Finley, yet.

Twelve CPC seats lost in Ontario, 8 in Quebec. Can they make it up elsewhere? The CPC may pick up a couple of seats in the Atlantic region and could lose a couple in the Praries/West but that's about it.

Back in May only 57% of Tory voters supported the Afghanistan invasion and occupation; that number has certainly gone down in light of recent deaths. And we know only 32% of Canadians supported Harper's assertion that Israel's pre-meditated invasion and bombing of Lebanon was "measured". We - the Canadian people - are revolted by the "war" on "terror" and the war crimes Harper implicitly supports; unless he dummies up very fast we'll never trust him or his kind again to run this great country.

Believe me, Stephen, I'm waaaaaay more conservative than you or anyone else here, and I have made about 100 comments here at SDA to that effect. I want a generation of CPC government - which is why I'm disappointed that Harper is failing so miserably on foreign policy.

"NDP: one riding association proposes a freeze on trade with Israel until the "occupation of Palestinian lands" is ended.

The complete left liberal/socialist Manifesto is complete with the above resolution.

The NDP is anti-Israel, anti-Jewish; Jewhaters.

NDP: The communist party of Canada. Uncle Joe Stalin/Trudeau/Douglas/Castro, et al, are proud of them. ..."

You're correct - without a doubt! It's really the - No Democracy Party

NDP to vote on whether troops are like terrorists. If this makes it to a vote they are all certifiable wacknuts.
We all know there are no principles the NDP sanction fighting a war for. That would include all the freedoms we now enjoy thanks to the efforts and supreme sacrifices of our soldiers in two world wars. What does that tell you?
Jack has become an embarassment here every time he opens his hairy yap on the Afghanistan mission. Let's hope it doesn't travel too far. It would not be the most uplifting for our soldiers to hear, though no doubt they will.

There ought to be a law against such stupidity, and treasonous banter when we have our soldiers dying in the field to make our world a safer place.

NDP, the rectum of politics.