This time, it's a French prof:
"Concerning Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, the author affirms: 'Exaltation of violence: chief of pitiless war, plunderer, mass-murderer of Jews and polygamous, that's the Mohammed revealed through the Koran.'"
That's from a news story translated by journalist Rod Dreher, who's had his own run-ins with the Perpetual Outrage Machine. And he lives in Dallas; yep, they're there, too.











And when will we see a Mainstream editorialist call this fact to the attention of the public?
Rod's with the Dallas Morning News, and I don't believe for a moment he doesn't try. But even in the heart of Texas, journalists and editors are mostly liberal.
And when will we see a mainstream editorialist bring this to the attention of the public?
My apologies for the double post ...seems to be hanging up it the digisphere somewhere....
Yes indeed Rod Dreher may be a regular news columnist in Dallas but I'm talking about Major News outlets and Media organisations!
Local or regional stuff is good but what about national and international?
All is not lost yet. Angela Merkel's reaction to the cancellation of the Mozart opera in Germany was reported relatively clearly by the MSM (CBC, at least). She cautioned against sacrificing western values on the altar of Islamism. There may yet arise enough cries to draw the attention of the MSM.
Bloggers must (and, of course, will) continue to lead the charge in this war for civilization. Keep up the good work, Kathy / Kate / et al. Your diligence is a benefit to civilization.
Don't holed your breath waiting.
Surely the day will come when the Germans face the reality that Islam is not their friend.When they are aroused in anger i would not want to be the poor stooges on the other end.The Germans are good at putting the hammer down.
" You have not seen war till you have fought the German..."
which hole?
kursk said:
" You have not seen war till you have fought the German..."
Clausewitz would probably echo that sentiment; try his classic text "Vom Kriege" (Of War)
Your handle was also a major tank battle in Russia.
So far my forefathers have kicked too many asses in the Franco Prussian war 1871, WWI, WWII; and we have collected a number of battlefront medals to prove it.
As the comedians now suggest the germans don't get involved unless it is a World War.
I remain respectfully yours
"Huns" Rupprecht
This would be funny if it wasn't so damn deadly for those who dare deny that Islam is a religion of peace. When is the world going to wake up and smell the frikkin' coffee? These nutbars do not play nice.
Consider us all under perpetual death threat. We offend by simply existing as non-Death Cultists. Fatwa, dhimmitude, jihad, burqa are now permanent Arabic additions to the English language. A full plate for an academic linguist, I would say. Sadly, most of the lefty campus hacks aren't extrapolating much from the obvious there.
I'm still holding my breath waiting for that huge Million Man anti-terrorist parade, wanting to take back their religion, by peace loving Muslims in a major NA or European city.
Five years now, since 9/11, and still waiting.......
'Moderate Muslims' won't be taking back their religion from the violent fascist radicals anytime soon - because even if moderate Muslims do exist - they're completely irrelevant, obviously, because they don't set the Islamic agenda.
Could the American citizens on this site perhaps ask your government why they so strongly support Turkey's entry into the EU. Your government supports a move that will add 80 million muslim citizens to the European Union. Are Americans aware of this? How would you feel if the US added another state with 80 million muslims? Take it up with your senator/congressman or whoever.
The position of Germany:
"Merkel has been a vocal opponent of Ankara's EU membership, arguing that "inviting Turkey to become a candidate [...] was a mistake".
France:
"France, along with Austria, has pledged to hold a referendum on Turkey's EU accession, appears to become increasingly sceptical on the issue."
The USA:
"Turkey counts as a key ally for the United States, and thus Washington believes that the EU should take in the largely Muslim Mediterranean nation as a full member. For the US, Turkey's EU membership would create a stable role model for the whole Islamic world."
source:euractiv.com/en//eu-turkey-relations/article-129678
Philanthropist:
Yes, but as Clausewitz observed:
"War is merely politics by other means..."
In general, politics is war without bloodshed
while war, is politics with bloodshed.
This should clear the matter up, or rather clear the battlefield.
Cheers
ACADEMIA IS HUMP OF ISLAM
The assertion that Turkey is stable is tenous!
Why the US supports Turkey's EU bid? Because turkey lets the US keep airbases there. Ever since the advent of the USSR's nuclear threat US miltary installations have been a key piece of the geo/political puzzle....things are more complicated now ! Eh?
BTW...since this post is about a French citizen being put under protection...Why is it that The Family of Theo Van Goh has to go into hiding to evade the Islamothugs in France?
http://ommag.blogspot.com/2006/09/islamic-thugs-terrorize-dutch-family.html
Hans..your family and ours share many traits i would imagine..all landsers in one conflict or another.Grandfather was a driver of a PzKWgn IV Aus F at Kursk..
Can anyone not see a day coming where people will band together on the street for self protection against these thugs? I think you will see pitched street battles in cities all over Europe this year.
People will only stand being pushed around so long..all the passive resistance in the world will get you no where, not when it just emboldens the Islamists to kill without fear of punishment
The Islamists have now learned that murder is an accepted unpunishable norm, even to something as inane as cartoons..imagine what they will try to do when they really dislike something.
If they are going to kill you in your home or school,then by God,meet them on the streets.Attack them with prejudice anytime they gather in anger to do someone harm.Retaliate and hit them hard.
Don't cower in your own homes and streets,they are the interloper,defend yourself..
The US can always get bases through bilateral agreements. Turkey is a member of Nato. The EU shouldn't come into it, but maybe it has.
I must say that the Turks are not really the culprits in islamist violence in Europe but it does seem ironic that with all the talk of muslim violence on this post and elsewhere, it needs to be pointed out that the US government likes the idea of adding millions more muslims to the European mix.
I think the Turks should give St Sophia back to the eastern orthodox church. Then we can discuss EU entry.
I think the U.S. likes the idea of secular Turkey, not the reality of Islamist Turkey. It is the face of the wizard,behind whose fascade you will find the radicals,manipulating and pulling all the levers.They are the ones who truly run the show.
kursk, "You have not seen war till you have fought the German..." This ain't your grandaddy's Germany. Merkel is a step in the right direction, and a small sign of hope, but Germany appears to me to be eaten up with lazy pie-in-the-sky Socialism. German society in general has their head planted firmly up their posterior, and their military capabilities are pitiful. Even with Merkel at the helm, Germany is standing in an Afghan corner failing to assist in engaging the enemy.
I'm impressed and surprised to finally hear of a Francophone with a set of nads. Few and far between. I sincerely hope he gets to keep them.
To understand the US position on Turkey/EU, here's my take:
1) The EU is a socialist bureaucratic supra-political construct. It is not a government ordained by the people. The constitution has been outright rejected by the Irish, French, Dutch and others given the privilege to vote on the matter, with the exception of minor players Luxembourg, Cyprus and Malta. Other governments who have ratified participation did so without public consent. The British and others are very bitter that they voted to join the EC, but have been left out of the decision-making on further entanglement. The EU is a joke.
2) Turkey has been a steadfast ally, and the US made a commitment before the world went mad to support their efforts to gain entrance to the EU. Please notice that the US strives to keep our word.
Even now, in my opinion, Turkey has been a better ally than France, Germany, and Canada (until recently), and I support honoring our commitment to them. Notice that even though Turkey blocked the important northern front in the Iraq war, their parliament VOTED on the issue. The allied government did not campaign against it, and Americans respect the democratic decision of the elected representatives of the Turkish people.
3) The US is evidently in the liberating position of supporting whatever we want with EU nations and it doesn't really make a damn. It's been made crystal clear that a number of our NATO "allies" are better friends of our enemies. We can say anything in the world today and it really doesn't matter. Even when our "allies" "agree" with us, as in 17 resolutions against Iraq, the abject failure of the UN in N Korea, the interminable negotiations of the EU 3 in Iran. "Death to the American bastards" seems to be the mantra.
Despite the popular "bully boy" reputation, Americans realize that what the US wants, needs, or says doesn't matter, and hasn't mattered for a long time, among some members of our "mutual protection" allies. We can stand by a previously made commitment to a steadfast ally's ambitions and, as has been demonstrated, the EU nations will do what they so choose.
4) Maybe it will get some Europeans thinking in real world terms. Should make for an interesting debate. Yippee!
5) Europe has already allowed itself to be overrun by Muslim immigrants from North Africa and Asia Minor that the Turks might be a good influence -- a bridge, so to speak.
Either way, I'm very comfortable that our Turkey/EU policy is the right thing to do.
correction: Latvia also voted yes for the EU constitution. Still, in US foreign policy terms, I think the EU/Turkey issue is a win, win, win, win, win.
Tom Penn said "German society in general has their head planted firmly up their posterior, and their military capabilities are pitiful."
I respectfully disagree with the last statement in this sentence. Germany's military strength and the quality of its equipment should not be confused with the lacklustre performance of its socialist government. Nor should the fighting spirit and skill of its soldiers.
German soldiers are some of the most professional and skilled that I have ever worked with. I'd rather work with a German Gefreiter than most other nations I could name. The Germans have the same get it done attitude which exists in the CAF. In short 99% of them are worth their salt.
To go off track a little here, there seems to be a common mistake being made on this board. One can not confuse the cowardice of a government with the willingness or skill of that nations soldiers to do their job.
If that were the case then the CF was made up of a bunch of cowardly, incompetant loosers in Somalia, Rwanda and Bosnia.
To quote Sun Tzu " The final object of armies is war, anything which detracts therefrom is decieptful, chimerical, fatal." Soldiers know this but they are, and rightfully so, bound to do the bidding of political masters. So please folks think about where the orders come from before you condemn those that are forced to impliment it.
When plans were made for the invasion of Iraq, didn't Turkey sabatoge them at the last minute by changing its mind and refused the American troops the right to land, or stage or fly over it. Could that be the reason things went bad in the north. All those troops then had to be re-routed and that took a long time, while other troops were fighting. And the US calls this country an ally. How different things might have went and how many deaths averted if original plans had been carried out. In reality, if the mid-east wants to modernize and prosper they should let the US win. Look what losing did for Japan and Germany's economy. Guess they want to continue to live in the 7th century. And if that is true, why do so many muslims come to Canada and the US. Those moderate muslims (do they exist) are ignorant of the fact that if the terrorists win, their life will also change and being a muslim wont save them. They better wake up fast.
If your in TO, go to the rally. Shock those talibanjacks and libs in that city, that they don't speak for the majority of voters. The rest of Canada will be watching.
I just read Dreher's piece on the radical islamic book Milestones. Sounds like the Mein Kampf of the Islamic world. Puts to rest the notion that all the insanity in the Middle East is simply a reaction to American imperialism, and that if the Americans would just be nicer (and abandon Israel), all of the violence would cease.
The more I read about Islam, the more I'm convinced that Islamofascism is an organic, home-grown ideology that views the mere existence of liberal capitalist society as a threat that needs to be vanquished irregardless of how accomodating the West becomes.
Tom Penn, Zip, Kursk:
Thanks for the commentary.
This is why it is re"Merkel"ble that Germany has sent its Kriegsmarine to the shores of Lebanon to defend no less, AGRESSION AGAINST JEWS in ISRAEL!!!
Talk about a sea change of historic importance.
Chancellor Merkel has taken a big political risk, got slapped around a bit in the recent local elections in the former "East Germany", but has not wavered. I think this gal has a bit of 'jam'.
We will see how this develops.
Zip, Kursk:
It seems the universal complaint among soldiers, that their countries are sometimes led by idiots.
In Canada, the treatment of the CF under the LIEberals was shameful and disgraceful.
What I can't for the life of me understand is how the Liberal administration could let Romeo Dallaire literally 'twist in the wind' in Rwanda; as if they didn't know about the dire circumstances he was in. This poor bastard was under resourced, despite constant nagging to do something and he was completely and utterly ignored.
Good GOD ALMIGHTY, if you can do that to a General in the field, God help the enlisted man. It almost reminded me of Gen. Paulus with the 6th Army in Stalingrad; when Goering suggested "If another soldier dies in Stalingrad what is that to us?"
Years later my wife used to visit an old vet of Stalingrad who was one of the 6000 of original 250,000 German Sixth Army who miraculously came back. His stories weren't particularly flattering of the attitude towards the 'High Command' ie political masters. A complete and utter disgrace, and an insult to everyone who donned a uniform.
Another example would by the polish flyer Martel with the RAF, who bitterly complained about the orders to fly in V formations of 12, during the early part of the Battle of Britain. The eavesdropping of german Luftwaffe communications revealed that they regarded these V formations as "Idiotenreihen" (Rows of idiots). Also one of the reasons the RAF nearly got wiped out, until another idiot Goering decided to stop targeting airfields exclusively and took to bombing London instead.
It also gets my ire up when you have a bunch of yahoo pols trying to suggest the "wear red on fridays campaign to support your troops" is political.
Having had family and known others who were systematically "left in the sh*t"; I find the lack of courage among some politicians particularly galling. But then principles are something they compromise regularly, as if they were trading butter for bread, and not someone else's life or loved one.
As to the prof above who has the courage to 'tell it like it is' or Pope Benny who has the courage to open discussion that religion and violence don't go together; but rather that religion and REASON have an intimate connection; I can only say :
I salute you.
Perpetual Muslim outrage is because Islam, at it's core, is fragile. With little investigation, no rational person could ever claim that Moe was a prophet of the same Judeo/Christian God, let alone any God worth worshiping. All credible historians concur that this so-called prophet was a mass-murdering (Battle of the Trench, etc.), pedophile (Aysha), thief.
He was also, apparently, a fat bastard and a coward.
If Muslims are forced to examine their imposter prophet's life, then they will have to question his conterfiet book as well. Based on this, outrage, as a reactive knee jerk defence, can be expected. Their whole belief system and history is at stake.
It seems the way to defeat Islam is to continue to speak truth to lies, regardless of the blowback. To ridicule, in order to help it unravel.
There's no such thing as reform, when there's nothing to reform.
Islam is a total religious, social, cultural and economic system. If one part of these pieces is threatened, the whole is threatened.
If Muslim women ever got full equal rights and educations, that's very bad for that fragile Muslim macho ego in the exclusive Boy's Club they so cherish. If capitalism really took hold in the ME, a middle class would emerge, like Marxism, that's to be avoided at all costs. The affluent and the educated are more likely to avoid conflict with others and seek more secular lives.
If the terrorists were really working in the spirit of "liberation", righting the Muslim grievances and improving their conditions, then, why aren't they embracing secularism, women's rights and capitalism? Dead silence coming from the Lefties when posed with that question. I mean, surely, the Palestinians could for their common good, cut the best deal, then, access democratic, educated and affluent Israel next door. More silence from the Left.
Marxism and Islam as systems have more in common than people realize.
Mary, the Turks decision to not allow us to use their territory for staging was not as big of a betrayal as the actions of France, Germany and Canada.
Turkey's head of state was not flying around the world to Africa, South America and elsewhere lobbying and bribing Security Council states against us. Turkish leadership was not speaking out in Saddam's defense on the UN floor. Turkey had not voted for 17 resolutions against Saddam continually moving the goalposts in an endless process. Turkey was not undermining UN resolutions by selling contraban to Saddam, or padding their pockets in Oil for Food.
Turkey's executive and military leadership supported the US and had agreed to allow staging on the northern front. The Turkish people were strongly against it, and public pressure forced a vote in Turkey's parliament. The Turks had an open, honest, fair, and public debate on the ISSUES. The US was not publicly vilified to whip up anti-American hate. They discussed the issues and strategic implications of cooperation, and their parliamentary representatives of the people voted against it.
Turkey ultimately did not make a decision in our favor, and it was very strategically costly. But, they conducted themselves like a free democracy and an ally. We absolutely respect the sovereign decisions of our allies.
For contrast, Canadian leadership waffled, committed, backpeddled, said one thing in private and then other things in public, and whipped up anti-American hate. The Canadian political and public debate was about the many, many faults and failures of the American bastards, not the merits of the issue on the table. Oh yeah, and your political leadership lobbied other countries against us, while lining their pockets with Oil for Food money. And in the end, at the last minute, Canada made the incredible decision to completely abdicate your sovereignty to Cameroon and Algeria.
re: the perfidity of France, Germany and Canada.
I can understand the frustration but maybe it's time to move on. Paul Martin & Gerhard Schroeder are history. France may soon have Mr. Sarkozy as leader.
Europe is not only France and Germany. European countries did support the USA. The UK, Denmark, Netherlands, Poland, & Ukraine, to name a few.
Here are the total fatal casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan since Sept. 11,01 (to Sept.9,06) combined, by nation:
1. United States 2,991
2. United Kingdom 154
3. Italy 38
4. Canada 32
5. Spain 30
6. Ukraine 18
7. Germany 18
8. Poland 17
9. Bulgaria 13
10. France 9
source:snappingturtle.net/flit/index.html
Valéry Giscard d'Estaing (born in Koblenz, Germany) is a French center-right politician who was President of the French Republic from 1974 until 1981.
He opposes Turkey joining the European Union, saying to French Newspaper Le Monde, "In my opinion, it would be the end of Europe."
From Rupprecht, quoting kursk:
kursk said:
" You have not seen war till you have fought the German..."
Clausewitz would probably echo that sentiment; try his classic text "Vom Kriege" (Of War)
Your handle was also a major tank battle in Russia.
So far my forefathers have kicked too many asses in the Franco Prussian war 1871, WWI, WWII; and we have collected a number of battlefront medals to prove it.
As the comedians now suggest the germans don't get involved unless it is a World War.
I remain respectfully yours
"Huns" Rupprecht
Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at September 28, 2006
And from Tom Penn:
For contrast, Canadian leadership waffled, committed, backpeddled, said one thing in private and then other things in public, and whipped up anti-American hate. The Canadian political and public debate was about the many, many faults and failures of the American bastards, not the merits of the issue on the table. Oh yeah, and your political leadership lobbied other countries against us, while lining their pockets with Oil for Food money. And in the end, at the last minute, Canada made the incredible decision to completely abdicate your sovereignty to Cameroon and Algeria.
Posted by: Tom Penn at September 29, 2006
Between the outright neo-Nazis and the arrogant and dishonest Bush sycophant crowd, this site is really making this a fine Friday morning alright.
Fatwa, dhimmitude, jihad, burqa are now permanent Arabic additions to the English language. A full plate for an academic linguist, I would say. ...
I'm still holding my breath waiting for that huge Million Man anti-terrorist parade, wanting to take back their religion, by peace loving Muslims in a major NA or European city.
Five years now, since 9/11, and still waiting.......
Posted by: penny at September 28, 2006
Another vacuous contribution. People who are capable of this kind of rhetoric deserve careers in public relations, ... and the reputation that goes with them.
I think the yanks support Turkey's EU entry to irritate the French.
Just like the UK joined to irritate the French.
red ant, "Europe is not only France and Germany. European countries did support the USA". What are you talking about? I did not say anything to indicate that I see Europe as one unit, I made the opposite point. Also, I never pretended we don't have steadfast and reliable European allies that we will stand beside through thick and thin. What did I say to indicate that I have not "moved on"?
I was responding to questions about US support of Turkey's EU bid. I was explaining why we value Turkey as an ally and are honoring our commitment to them. Why would I need to list every US ally to make that point? Why would I need to explain how the political climate in Canada and Germany has changed somewhat and how I feel about that to make my point?
Budd Campbell, neo-Nazis, arrogant, dishonest? Is that an issues based argument? Care to elaborate?
Between the outright neo-Nazis and the arrogant and dishonest Bush sycophant crowd, this site is really making this a fine Friday morning alright.
Posted by: Budd Campbell at September 29, 2006 02:29 PM
Budd Campbell:
BTW I was born in Montreal, so I am a bona fides "Canucklehead".
No I am not a neo-Nazis, just because one has a german heritage, but these gals in Islamabad surely are:
http://www.n-tv.de/634520.html
with the "GOD BLESS HITLER" sign.
Hey, Adolf is welcomed back to Pakistan!!.
These are the types and their supporters who are running across the border from Waziristan to Afghanistan under the cover of Al Qaeda/Taliban banners.
These gals and similarly minded likes are the one's drawing their poisioned spiritual drink from the Koran and running around shooting up the countryside with carefree abandon.
If you are a little slow to recognize the parallels, then I leave you to your own conscience.
But thanks for the broad brush stroke smear, I got the same bullsh*t in high school. When I 'go over to the Darth Vader dark side'; I'll be sure to let you know.
So, Budd, why don't you spring on us some original content, post an original analysis, share the rich contours of that superior brain of yours with us, I mean, sniping from the sidelines is cheap and easy. Spewing "neo-Nazis" and "this kind of rhetoric" requires more precise definitions if we are to understand your point of view. You wouldn't want to be assumed as vacuous would you?
Come on, Budd, what's your thoughtful analysis of Islamic perpetual rage, countering terrorism, the flaws within Islam.......?
Bring it on, Budd.
A show of hands here, folks, Budd is in Time Out until he completes his assignment.
And, I'll be right there to remind Budd everytime his head pops up.
Trolls need challenges like everyone else. It builds character.
If Budd cared to be a regular guest,he would see that our opinions span a certain spectrum...(except the left,seems my meter will not budge into that zone..:)
In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, in regards to our collective thoughts.."He don't know me very well do he?"
Another moderat mulim with a fatwa issued on him for opposing the exemists the RELIGION OF PEACE INDEED
When people of the Muslim faith are offended by some statement or action they percieve to be against them, no matter how trivial, they go ballistic. It borders on insanity. It's taking morbid hatred for all others to new heights at every oportunity.
The Pope apologized to them for just making a quote and met with some of the Muslim"leaders"as well. They are still not happy. They are impossible to deal with and refuse to listen to reason, so why bother with such wretched people?
Apologies are not wanted, they want heads.
Have we all forgotten the brutality of the bastards beheading live human beings on Al Jezeera TV?
Aparently it's ok to chop off the heads of "infidels".
Some religion, to allow inhumanity and cruelty in it's name and have the gall to be offended by mere words.
It's looking like the people from the extreme ranks of Islam cannot be successful living in the Modern World. Why would they even attempt to?
Probably the most important aspect of Redeker's predicament lies in the reaction of the oh so secular teachers unions to his plight.
As in where are they?
Redeker says they've completely abandonned him.
Yet these same unions have sprung to the defense of leftist intellectuals time and time again, but only when they excorciate Christianity.
Says it all.....
Ah Kathy!Doing her bit towards fostering civilised dialogue once again?But then what can we expect from a bigot who famously wrote that all Arabs are violent retards and even more disgustingly yearned for Trudeau Jr to buried under an avalanche.The poison from her pen just does not stop.
So Ajushail you and your twitchy, frustrated buddies intend to foster civilised dialogue through death threats and intimidation?
Muslims are becomming ashamed of this dispicable behavior and are beginning to wonder whether or not what the "bigots" are saying actually has an element of truth to it.
The best way to foster dialogue is to expose Islam's faults, imperfections and propensity to violence so that all can see it for what it is.
Islamo-lullaby thwarted, islamo-fangs exposed!
I'll ask, yet again, a question I asked you at another website: why is the islamic world so backward, so corrupt and so poverty sticken that it can't even feed itself?
And, as a follow-up to that, why should the rest of humanity have the obligation to continue to feed you?
How will the "Caliphate" feed itself, Ajushail?
By using methods like those of North Korea?
How can you be humanity's salvation when you're too infantile to even attend to basic human needs?
Think about that a second.
It isn't bigotry to ask why the world's muslims have taken the globe's most advanced and most prosperous regions and turned them into parasitic backwaters.
From Fertile Crescent to futile crescent.....
Such questions and comments are quite legitimate; they the very essence of true, constructive dialogue.
If you're unable to respond to these FACTS, then the whole dialogue thing escapes you; it becomes nothing more than a stalling tactic intended to dissimulate your failures and to buy a litle extra time, lullaby time.
John P
Must the readers of this site be subjected to your demented outpourings?We get enough on that on Daimnation as it is.Now be a good boy and disappear.Having you participate is hardly the way to foster reasoned or civilised dialogue.And stop living in that fantasy world of yours.
Aj, if you're unaware that the islamic world can't feed itself, then what do you even know about your own world? That the 57 dystopic states that make up the Islamo
-sphere need no "defense"?
You're quite incapable of critical thought, aren't you?
ajsuhail,
You speak as though you belong here. You don't.
Rather than reasonably answer anybody who puts forth facts and questions about your 'religion', you habitually dismiss them with crass insults.
You talk about reasoned or civilised dialogue, however you've never once done so. Time and time again, you resort to calumny.
Is that because you are an intellectual weenie? Is it because your religion truly is a death cult, with what any decent human being would consider a monster, as its prophet?
ajsuhail, it is you who must "disappear." And soon enough, given that you bear nothing but insults and invective, I'm sure that'll happen to you on this site.
Hopefully, in the not-so-distant future, we'll also see you and other Islamofascist liars disappear from our country.
Irwin,
did you actually read your last comment before posting it?Or was the irony lost on you?
I am not the one abusing someone's religion or leader.And you have perfected the art of spewing invectives, not me.So give that hate filled brain (if one can call it that) a rest and join the real world for a change.
John P-I absolutely refuse to respond to your nonsensical nattering.I have better things to do.
Irony is something that escapes you entirely,Aj.
Once again, Ajushail, why can't the islamic world even feed itself?
Have you an answer for such a "nonsensical" nattering question.
Not having enough to eat is just silly, isn't it?