Military historian Victor Davis Hanson has a sobering review of the current situation in the ME and the questionable sympathies of the world press;
The old Arab agenda of recapturing “stolen” land has been superseded by a new Islamist jihad that is as fanatical as it is inhuman. The Islamists care not a whit for ground, but only for the abject destruction of the Jewish state and to finish the Holocaust that they claim did not take place. Few of the pundits now clamoring for “engagement” care to recall that Syria probably murdered Rafik Hariri, or that Iran promises to wipe Israel off the map.The near criminal indifference of the international community is cause for greater depression still. No one says a thing about horrific Arab racism and anti-Semitism that brazenly offer the world pictures of our secretary of State as a primate and constant hate speech of Jews as apes and pigs. And here at home, a celebrity actor, the staff of a failed congresswoman in Georgia, and a crazed Muslim with a gun in Seattle all shout about the evils of the “Jews” — a good cross-section of just how insidious is the growing anti-Semitism.
The globalized media is absolutely discredited after the coverage of Lebanon. Reuters has destroyed its reputation, gained from 150 years of world reporting, by releasing doctored pictures and tolerating staged photo-ops. Almost all the Western media outlets failed to distinguish Lebanese civilian from military casualties — as if the Hezbollah terrorists they never filmed and never interviewed never died.
Indeed, thanks to the unprofessional reporters abroad, and their disingenuous chiefs back home, the world never saw the killers who sent the rockets nor many of their civilian victims on the ground in Israel. Nor did the reporters apprise their audience of the different landscapes in which they worked: candor in Israel might win loud disagreement; truth in Lebanon meant death. It would be as if Reuters, AP, or the New York Times embedded its reporters within the Waffen SS, beaming daily reports back home about the great morale and noble suffering of the Wehrmacht as it advanced into the snowy Ardenn.
... and near the end gets something wrong;
In an amorphous war of self-induced Western restraint, like the present one, truth and moral clarity are as important as military force. This past month, the world of the fascist jihadist and those who tolerate him was once again on display for civilization to fathom. Even the most timid and prone to appeasement in the West are beginning to see that it is becoming a question of “the Islamists or us.”In this eleventh hour, that is a sort of progress after all.
Or rather, is proven wrong. Returning from Lebanon after spending a few days as guests of Hezbollah, two Canadian politicians have established themselves as this year's leading contenders for the Nobel Prize In Bad Judgement,
It would aid the cause of peace if Canada dropped Hezbollah from a list of banned terrorist organizations, according to two Canadian MPs on a fact-finding mission to Lebanon.When asked if he were in favour of Hezbollah being taken off the terror list, Etobicoke Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj said: "Yes, I would be."
He likened the situation in the Middle East to Northern Ireland, where "if there wasn't the possibility for London to negotiate with the IRA, you'd still have bombings."
"Hezbollah has a political wing, they have members of parliament, they have two cabinet ministers," Wrzesnewskyj said. "You want to encourage politicians in this military organization so that the centre of gravity shifts to them."
New Democrat Peggy Nash, who represents the Toronto riding of Parkdale-High Park, said her discussions in Lebanon had led her to believe "that it is just not helpful to label them a terrorist organization."
"If the political parties in Lebanon who may disagree with Hezbollah, and be opposed to them and their philosophy, can figure out a way to work with Hezbollah and try to get along internally, then perhaps we should take a cue from that."
This was the message that both MPs said they would bring back to their caucuses, and eventually to the House of Commons, when they return to Canada this week.
Unbelievable.
Related - How Islamic Terrorists Manipulate the Media
Also - lots this morning on this at Blogging Tories.
OMG! Thats all I can say, blows my mind!
So I wonder how much Iranian/Hezbollah money it cost for those two MP's to sell their souls.
I read their comments in the Star Phoenix this morning and still haven't cooled down. I have no idea what to say or even think about these comments, they are so surreal. The colossal ignorance of these people is beyond words. It is a bad day to be Canadian.
IDIOTS!!!
Two delusional, appeasement-oriented MPs, one a Grit, the other a Dipper.
In historical parallel, prior to the German Nazi Party legally coming to power in 1933 by German President Hindenburg appointing Hitler as Chancellor, the German Nazi Party had legally elected Members in the German Parliament, the Reichstag. The Nazi Party also had soup kitchens and so forth for poor and unemployed Germans. (All these destitute Germans had to do was listen to Nazi speeches while eating the free Nazi Party-provided meals or while getting clothing from the Nazi clothing program.)
Did that make Hitler (Nasrallah) and the Nazis (Hezbollah) any less viciously fascist? Did it make their great plan, as outlined in "Mein Kampf" (Hezbollah Charter) any less ominous and vile?
Those two idiot MPs only prove the truth of historian Georges Santayana's statement that "the only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn anything from history."
Western democracies can conquer Hezbollah and the rest of the Islamic Fascists as long as we have the will to do so.
The VDH article calls for “truth and moral clarity being as important as military force”. I agree, to win we need a moral Clarity Act on Liberals and Dippers who are a risk to our country. These utopians would sit down and talk to a serial killer in their house instead of calling the police. Islamic Fascists are in our house. They not the Viet Cong, we cannot walk away from the enemy this time, the enemy is here. We arrested 17 in Toronto last month, there are more.
In short, we have 2 utopian enemies to do battle with:
The Islamic extremists who are utopians of the past and
The Socialist utopians of the future in Canada who identify with the Islamists as their last hope to conquer capitalism.
Appeasers in the Liberal Party and the Dippers are as dangerous as the terrorists. They are irrationally utopian and believe in submission to an outside force.
It's high time the Liberals and NDP we're labelled as terrorist support organisations, as well as rascist anti-semites and summarily banned.
I heard this today and couldn't believe it, though it was hardly surprising.
To clarify perhaps they should call George Mitchell from the US or the former Canadian CDS (de Chastelain) to get an understanding of the process used in Northern Ireland. It wasnt what they are recommending here.
However, at no time would Canadian funding of the IRA EVER have taken place. If Hesbollah chooses a different name, proves they are different people (between fighters and politicians) then perhaps it would be considered.
But once again, Canadian funding was unhelpful either way. It was a British Irish issue. In this case it is an Israeli/Lebanese issue and we would be better to encourage them to speak.
These two "useful idiots" that are acting on behalf of Hesbollah should be ignored. Did they tour the damaged israeli cities as well?
These idiots just don't get it. They want to de-list an organization thats stated goal is to eradicate another country. And part of their justification is becasue there are members of Hezbollah that are in government...
The NAZIs were an elected body. The only difference between their "kill the jews" policy and Hezbollah's was for the most part it wasn't revealed to the masses until near the end or shortly after the war. Hezbollah's is right out there. There is no mistaking their intentions.
Had Nash and Wrzesnewskyj been alive in the 40's they would have undoubtedly toured Berlin and Tokyo after allied air raids and demanded they stop and declassify the Nazi and Japanese as enemies, but rather as people of a democracy that need to be talked with; to be understood.
The NDP and the Liberals have gone from being laughable to really being a threat to western civilization. The terrorists have got these suckers number and they use them on a regular basis to propogandize their cause,
These morons don't understanding that after they kil the Jews, their further cause is destroy Western civilization.
And the most amazing thing is the first people likely to be hung from the mulberry trees are people like Svend Robinson and Libby Davies.
Un-bloody-believable...
The proper term is "useful idiots".
No the proper term is useless retards.
The leftern world within is the biggest threat to our way of life, not the Hezbollgh or any other terrorist organization [sorry to keep harping on this point]. When common sense is completely lost and appeasement and sniveling to the demands of the minority are the norm you have a receipt for disaster. I only shudder to think what the position of Canada would be with the lib/left appeasers in power. These two zits from the toronto area and their comments are in line with the lib/left traitors to our society and our way of life.
Please put up email links to their offices, Kate.
Bleeding Hearts! I watched these so called represenatives in Lebanon yesterday. One thing that was for sure, they have been living with their head in the sand. Now, their head is just shoved where the sun don't shine! Hope that their ridings are watching this! Morons!
This just give Primes Harper more and more credability. Dippers and the liars will do anything and say anything!(Notice that CBC was right there..)
Something I didnt know before.
Hitler met with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to come to deal with "Arabs" about getting them their land back.
The Grand Mufti's went back and extolled the virtues of the Nazi's, including to his nephew.
The nephew of the Grand Mufti al-Husseni later changed his name to Yasser Arafat.
This is nothing but association and does not talk about transmission of ideologies etc etc...and often enemy of my enemy (in this case the British) is my friend. But there are links that are never discussed and views that are never explored by any media.
The discussion of Nazi soup kitchens and clothing drives is a good one. Once again not saying anything is wroong just old tactics that are successful get used again and again and you need to look at the ideology underneath any action to be able to evaluate it.
M Hawkins
You are absolutely correct. They are "useful idiots" by the original definition.
I should have thought of it.
BTW, Borys was a major supporter of SSM (something he didn't point out at the door when talking to my dad while electioneering last winter, I'd add). Maybe contact him and ask why he's supporting the people who execute queers.
Is it a surprise that the MSM are "useful idiots"? The New York Times helped promote the war in Iraq by publishing fiction about WMD's written by Ahmed Chalabi...I mean Judith Miller.
Stephen: If you didn't know that, then possibly you also didn't know that the Mufti was 'best friends' with Eichmann & Himmler, visited operational death camps, and personally recruited Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen SS(?)
I am always amazed at the perception of people like these two morons. This is war, not in the conventional sense that we are used to but it is still war. People like these two feel that terrorist groups can be appeased obviously failed history or were not taught. At some point coming to a location near us in Canada, in our streets, on our subways, buses or planes the terrorist will strike and then perhaps the morons will wake uo to reality. Unfortunately, this is what it is going to take for these dimwits to see the real world as it happens today.
I often worry that this forum is preaching to the converted. May I suggest an e-mail to the federal Liberal and ndp parties with your views may be useful. I am of course not sure it will help because some folks are stupid, but it's worth a try.
mel
Let the "guests of hezbollah", aka Liberals/NDP/Bloc, view this video. ...-
Conclusive evidence?
I had not intended to post again on the "Qanagate" affair until the report in preparation was finished - which still needs a few more days.
However, one of our readers has recently unearthed additional video footage, shot by Aljazeera. This more or less proves that the "dead baby" scene, in which "Green Helmet" was photographed by Reuters' Adnan Hajj (he of doctored photograph fame) uncovering the body of Abbas Ahmad Hashim, was not only staged, but faked.
The very strong indications are that the body of baby Hashim was uncovered early in the recovery effort by two Red Cross workers and subsequently re-buried so that it could be "discovered" by "Green Helmet" in a way that maximised the propaganda value.
The footage showing the initial discovery has been posted on this site, from which three "grabs" are reproduced here. ...- (EUReferendum blog)
Video here:
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13381.6
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I read about this in this AM's papers, and am just now coming out of shock mode
I plan to contact these people and ask them to clarify their stance on the subject. I expect an answer.
We need to be fair, as they could have been misquoted....you know how the MSM has been spinning this issue. I may be naive on this, but let's not yet rule out yet another case of MSM bias.
I just find it unbelievable that they could be in support of a group whose stated goal is eradication of Israel.
I would also like to know if their trip involved a visit to the damages in Israel.
Just think of how many moron's it took to elect these two.
I just found out that this trip was arranged by The National Council on Arab - Canadian Relations.
Maybe Layton and Graham will say that these are just extremists in their party. To which we reply “ yes but if you can’t manage your extremists you are not fit to govern our country. Go take a walk in the wilderness for 13 years and don’t come back until you isolate your nutbars.”
Lee said: "I just found out that this trip was arranged by The National Council on Arab - Canadian Relations".
As I recall, Carolyn Parrish's expense-paid junket to the ME was funded by Palestine House.........dare I suggest there is the hint of a pattern here? ;-)
I wrote a letter to the Mississauga newspaper about 2 years' back regarding Parrish and her trip financed by Palestine House.
The Palestine House guy wrote back to call me a zionist and offered to pay my way to see Pal suffering. Not surprisingly, Parrish also wrote back to offer a paid trip to see Pal suffering.
No doubt they put their "heads" together before replying to me - turds of a feather, and all that.
and we entrust people like that with our safety!
Dont just write them, write your MP if you live in an NDP or Liberal riding. What does Borys the Spider and Crosby Stills Nash care if you arent in their ridings.
Threaten their colleagues with electoral loss and watch the fur fly.
I know my MP is notoriously quiet on this matter, Hello Ms Kadis, care to speak up on this matter? Call Borys out on this.
does anyone have any idea how much money these lobby groups get from the canadian government??...are there processes in place to ensure this money does not make it back to the taliban/al qaida/hesbolla ???
are these mp's not mindful of the relationships between all of these extreme islamonutjob groups???
was it not the libs who sent our troops to afghani in the first place????
what is this lib doing supporting our enemies?
The Greek: "They want to de-list an organization thats stated goal is to eradicate another country."
It doesn't stop there. The hezb'allah logo consists of the word "allah" at the bottom, an AK47 and a globe. Their goal couldn't be any more clear - Israel's destruction is only their first step.
Wrzesnewskyj and Nash are wilfully blind idiots.
There's even more, and worse, at the Toronto Star site:
http://tinyurl.com/jx68z
Standing at the spot where an Israeli air strike killed several members of a Montreal family last month, Wrzesnewskyj said Israel's summer offensive against Lebanon was nothing less than "state terrorism."
"Over 1,200 dead and counting. Over 40,000 apartments and houses flattened. A country's infrastructure dismembered. You look around here," said Wrzesnewskyj (Etobicoke Centre). "I believe what's happened is absolutely criminal."
The Star archives only last for two weeks, so read it now.
These two usefull idiots should be labeled the collaberators they are, by supporting Hezbollah, they are inadvertantly endorsing ..GENOCIDE..
Canadians need to be reminded that these two vulgar freaks, have the complete support of their respective parties.
.....Support ..GENOCIDE..
......Vote Liberal or NDP........
These two usefull idiots should be labeled the collaberators they are, by supporting Hezbollah, they are inadvertantly endorsing ..GENOCIDE..
Canadians need to be reminded that these two vulgar freaks, have the complete support of their respective parties.
.....Support ..GENOCIDE..
......Vote Liberal or NDP........
Over at Celestial junk, Debris Trail addresses the stupidity of Nash and Wr..etc..
A must read.
so these two idiots get a Potemkin visit tour of some bomb damage and conclude that its a criminal act ?
Wonder if they got to meet Green Helmet Guy ??
Wonder if they asked any hard questions about Hisbullah staging news events or desecrating the corpses of children ??
But curious minds want to know, that after travelling half way around the world on a guided CAIR tour, did they go the extra 25 kilometres and visit damaged sites in Israel ??
I think not.
Liberals, NDP = Stuck on Stupid
Borys seems to be backtracking a bit. Heard an interview on Newsnet where he says he never said Hez should be taken off the list. But he dislikes the part of the legislation where it says you do not negotiate with terrorists.
Negotiating with them gives them legitimacy; what is the point, then, of having a list in the first place??
So I guess he's not really backtracking, just beating around the bush. (Oops, did I say Bush??)
No time to blog today....
I'm completely gobstruck by the lunacy of the Canadian left, embodied in the NDP and Liberals. The LAST thing we need is to remove Hezbollah from the terrorist list.
Jaw on the floor, still....
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atta boy Stockwell
CAIR Canada - the group that sponsored (paid for ??) the little Liberal NDP field trip. Thank god the Conservative member had the common sense & courtesy to pull out of the trip.
CAIR - All Hamas, All Hisbullah, All Hate, All the Time. Brought to you by the Religion of Peace and the International Terrorist Association for the Wiping Israel off the Map.
CAIR was founded in 1994 by alumni of an older group, the Islamic Association for Palestine. The IAP, founded by senior Hamas figure Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook, calls for the destruction of Israel and the creation of an Islamic state under Islamic law in Israel's place. (In 1996, CAIR would condemn the U.S. government's decision to deport Marzook as an "anti-Islamic" act.)
CAIR's first executive director, Nihad Awad, publicly declared himself a supporter of Hamas at a 1994 forum at Barry University in Florida.
One of CAIR's original advisory board members, Siraj Wahhaj, served as a character witness for Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman. Rahman is the blind Egyptian cleric convicted in 1995 of conspiracy to bomb New York landmarks. CAIR described Rahman's conviction as a hate crime.
CAIR's founding chairman, Omar Ahmed, also an IAP alumnus, is said to have declared at a public event in California in July, 1998: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." Ahmed has since disputed the accuracy of the quote--five years after it was reported by a California newspaper.
After the 9/11 attacks on the United States, CAIR's Web site featured a link titled, "Donate to the NY/DC Disaster Relief Fund." The link connected to the Web site of the Holy Land Foundation, a charity closed down by the United States three months later as a Hamas front.
Over the past 10 years, CAIR has grown rapidly. It now claims a total of 29 affiliates, including CAIR Canada. CAIR's media savvy won it much official attention after 9/11. With that attention, however, also came a higher degree of scrutiny.
Since 9/11, three CAIR associates in the U.S. have been indicted on terrorism-related charges.
In September, 2003, CAIR community relations director Bassem K. Khafagi, pleaded guilty on immigration and bank-fraud charges, in Detroit. Khafagi interestingly co-owned a print shop with another man who has since been charged with illegally sending goods into Iraq.
Randall Todd Royer, a communications specialist at CAIR's Washington headquarters, pleaded guilty in January, 2004, to belonging to the Kashmiri Lashkar-i-Taibi terrorist group and illegally acquiring firearms and explosives in order to train for terrorist missions against India. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
A founding member of CAIR's Texas chapter, Ghassen Elashi, was convicted of conspiracy and money-laundering charges in connection with the shipment of high-technology items to Syria and Libya in July, 2004.
This record has drawn increasing notice in the United States. CAIR officials were invited to join President Bush at his September, 2001, visit to Washington's mosque, but were omitted from the invitation list to the 2003 and 2004 White House Iftar dinners (an Iftar meal is the fast-breaking at the end of a day in Ramadan). New York Senator Chuck Schumer has charged that CAIR members have "intimate links to Hamas." Illinois Senator Richard Durbin, a political leader noted for his sensitivity to Islamic concerns, has said that CAIR is "unusual in its extreme rhetoric and its association with groups that are suspect."
CAIR Canada describes its relationship with CAIR as "close but distinct." It is not clear what this means. On its Web site and in its publications, CAIR lists CAIR canada as one of its local affiliates, giving it the same stauts as a state or regional CAIR chapter. CAIR Canada has its own board; so do many of CAIR's local chapters. It should of course be stated that no criminal charges have ever been filed gainst CAIR Canada or any of its officers.
how did they used to print it
"Nuff Said!"
this from CBCpravdas own stuff.
Graham later reversed his position, citing media reports that quoted Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah urging Palestinians to expand suicide bombings worldwide.
NDP MP urges hezb'allah to be removed from terrorist list.
then again the dippers never did have too much idea how money flows.
When terrorists threaten reporters and selectively "guide" them through war zones, it unquestionably affects the nature and amount of information the public gets. But the ideas which drive such manipulation also have an outreach program in the west in the form of the news services themselves. Safe and sound, far away from Hezbollah or PA threats, the media manipulates consumers by consistently keeping from them straightforward, common events and behaviours that are germaine to the issue of Israel's relations with its neighbours. Misinformation isn't good, but non-information is arguably worse.
When Pallywood is caught, say, faking a funeral, as in the incident Joel Mowbray mentions where the deceased was accidently dropped only to spring up unhurt and undead, it doesn't get much MSM coverage. It's not that big a story in and of itself, and one would assume that at the executive level the media wouldn't want us questioning the rest of their coverage. What's more disturbing is that such faked events don't seem to effect the level of credulity of reporters in the rest of their coverage. The attitude seems to be "If there's no apparent evidence of fakery, assume it's real."
Fakery is one problem, but lies of ommission are even more insidious and widespread. Since lies of ommission are technically not lies, you can't really call the media on them, but the MSM's constant witholding of, say, expressed Arab opinions about Jews, and their witholding of non-staged events which are utterly germaine to the issue of Israel's relations with its neighbours helps keep the public in the dark about what it is, exactly, that Israel is up against.
Recently there was an event which, again, was not covered by the MSM. A series of photos widely distributed by bloggers showed the event: the desecration of the remains of a man accused of giving information to Israeli authorities by a large crowd of Palestinians. In one photo you see a jeans-clad guy in a logo-ed T-shirt kicking the dead man; in another, men are seen taking pictures/videos with their cell-phones, looking not at the corpse being desecrated in front of them, but rather focused intently, like directors, on the image on their phones. In another, the dead man is on his back while a fat little woman whose face and body are completely covered, steps forward from the midst of this public-square gathering to step spryly, in a lunge position, on the dead man's windpipe.
The issue, of course, isn't that this public-square behaviour is synonymous with the Palestinian people per se, but rather that different nations and groups have different values, and that these differences cannot be discounted or dismissed outright as being irrelevent. The BBC's and -- only at times -- the CBC's default position is that Israel's neighbours are motivated exclusively by "justice" and "liberation" and all those words which dovetail nicely with those organization's lefty sympathies.
Their hatred, one is led to assume, results from the lack of those things, making their actions rude to mention, and irrelevent.
So images of dead/disinterred Lebanese and Palestinians are waved in the world's face, along with not-so-subtle assertions that Israelis don't care about human life, while the human face, and the motivations and attributes of some of the enemies of Israel are consistently airbrushed out of the narrative. This sort of propaganda powerfully affects public opinion, making the movement of certain MP's in the direction of votes inevitable.
In Canada there is a not-insubstantial constiuency -- of non-ME origins -- who in effect support the same goals, if not the actions, of that corpse-desecrating mob. You have to wonder if these people, and those who skirt around the edges of such a view wouldn't be a litte more er, ah, nuanced if the media didn't so selectively filter information and instead just documented the sort of real-world behaviours and attitudes that, at the very least, would help give realistic context to the larger picture. People should be allowed to make up their own minds, and not have someone decide what the narrative should be, and then create information networks to serve that viewpoint. They sure don't excise Israeli actions.
it seems to me that for many conservatives, it's less about standing up for jews and more about murdering muslims.
you see jeff at the end you're getting - keep trying boy!
EBD - great post. I couldn't agree with you more.
KATE - THEY DID NOT SAY "DeatH to Jews". THAT IS A LIE! THAT IS YOU PROVOKING BECAUSE YOU LOVE WAR. This post and those words would be a great case of the new interpretations of 'slander online' - Where did these 2 MP' say "Death to Jews" - I hope you have a good lawyer.
WHAT YOU SAID IS A LIE! A BLATANT LIE!
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/753073.html
"it seems to me that for many conservatives, it's less about standing up for jews and more about murdering muslims."
Jeffwee just mixed up his words a li'l bit.
Here, let me fix that for you Jeff...
it seems to me that for many muslims, it's less about standing up for muslims and more about murdering jews.
Hey Jeff
It seems to me that for many leftists it's less about standing up for muslims and more about murdering jews.
Multirec
Good timing buddy