The Flags Of Dalton McGuinty's Ontario

The presence of that Palestinian flag says it all.

McWimpy needs to be tarred and feathered then run out of town by the villagers carrying torches and pitchforks.

I'm comparing him to Bob Rae and I'm not seeing an improvement. I'm not even sure which of the two would be given the title of worst Ontario Premier in History so I'll have to give them a tie.

McBendover! This is such an embarrassement to our country, that this has not been settled. I guess we will just have to wait for the judges ruling in an hour.... I have a strong gut feeling that nothing will change. Maybe the judge should hold McBendover in contempt of court.

I wait with breathless anticipation at the CBC's coverage of this. Too bad my TV has a CBC parental block. Will someone, with a stronger stomach than I, keep us posted?

It never ceases to amaze me that people (McWimpy in this case) think that capitulating to terrorists will solve anything. The only answer to terrorism is extreme and violent retaliation. They should be immediately squashed and not a second thought given to it. Talking to terrorists, much less giving in to them, only gives them credibility and encourages more such acts.

Aww, we're such softies.

When does the Hezzbolah flag raising ceremony begin? Will the CBC have live coverage?

Now here's a police force we can all respect and admire. OPP take note:

Link from Drinking From Home Blog (http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/indonesian-terrorists-to-fight-israel.html#links)

Yahoo News - JAKARTA (AFP) - "Hardline Indonesian Islamic volunteers who want to go fight Israel in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories have paraded in the streets as police vowed to stop them leaving the country. "

Flying the Palestinan flag, are they? Wonderful. Almost time for the people of Caledonia to defend themselves, as no one else seems too interested.

What ???????

No orange flag for Hezbollah/Hizbullah/Hozballoh ?

How bad can this situation get? Here's a new low... guess who the natives were stoning?

http://hallsofmacadamia.blogspot.com/2006/08/mohawks-targetted-89-yo-man.html#links

There is no doubt that Canada's Native people have watched Hizb'allah and Hamas, and have learned.

Violence is much "sexier" and dare I say it, mor fun for some, than the messy, difficut task of land negotiations.

Judge rules that the province should stop negotiations until the barricades are taken down.

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Ah, a "Palestinian" flag.

How appropriate, as I did a post just today declaring that Canada now has its own "Palestine".

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2006/08/ethnic-violence-erupts-police-do.html

Indians desecrating the Canadian flag?

Way to go, boys!

That'll really help you curry favor with regular Canadians and help you get stuff!

Nice going! Whatcha gonna do next, burn it?

Judge rules that the province should stop negotiations until the barricades are taken down.

Posted by: MaryM at August 8, 2006 12:16 PM

"Should" being the operative word in that sentence and assumed ruling.
When "MUST" would work much better and pehaps initiate action that is long overdue on behalf of Caledonia citizens.
Throw these bums in jail and the government that allows it to happen right along with them.
Appeasers are going to get us all killed and that is no stretch.
Iran is up to something really bad in my view and we had better be about stopping them in their tracks.
Caledonia proves this in ways not even the Israeli defense of their country illustrates:
Citizens, peaceful and community minded have been attacked, bullied and put upon in ways none of us would expect to have to put up with.
We have had a simple view of life in that we expect those we put in charge of our peace actually take their job seriously and intend to do it.
I can think of no more moral and political betrayal than the way the OPP and the Ontario government have behaved.
They have betrayed Ontarians and Canadians at every level.
Recall for McGuinty and overhaul of the OPP should be the order of the day.
The Citizens of Caledonia deserve our support and the government and OPP need a strong message from the rest of us how disdainful we feel about their failure to do their jobs.
Justice Marshall is close to becoming one of the problems instead of the solution with his refusal to absolutely back up his rulings.
Rulings that came down in March. Here we are in August and there has been absolutely nothing done to protect the innocent and jail the perpetrators of the crimes.
Instead we hear that these criminals are being rewarded with land and a casino.
With our tax dollars and with no shame whatsoever about their failure to do their job.
Caledonians have every right to defend what is theirs and to defend those in the community who are not as able to defend themselves.
They have every right to throw rocks and take action to defend an 89 year old.
What about this is hard for the OPP and McGuintites to figure out?
We ought to make sure they figure it out real quick while beating the pavement in the unemployment line!

Isn't bending over [I’m not sure which way] the lib/left way? You can't get your nose in the trough, avoid confrontation or the ability to make conscientious decisions without bending. Bending is your way, you perfected it, it’s your moral fiber.

I will give the left credit for nerve though, the nerve to look themselves in the mirror daily and look their families in the eye and say, I am doing the right thing.

The Ontario Conservatives under Mike Harris had every opportunity to nip this one in the bud but what did they do?

They pointed fingers at each other while the natives stood on the sidelines silently and quietly laughing amongst themselves.

If you go back in Canadian history you'll find in every case it was a conservative government that started the decline for every hot button topic we have today.

As a prime example it was Diefenbacher's cancellation of the Avro Arrow program that started the ball rolling that is causing the continuing decline of our armed forces.

Warwick: i think tar & feather is too soft besides some soft on crime lefty judge would only let him go. The sad part of it all is the guy is leading in the polls, go figure.
Tied with Bob Rae, ya your bang on there to close to call.

Warwick: i think tar & feather is too good for him besides some soft on crime lefty judge would only let him go. The sad part of it all is the guy is leading in the polls, go figure.
Tied with Bob Rae, ya your bang on there to close to call.

Just *LOVE* the inclusion on the West Bank Gaza Strip Arab flag there.

Neither have a legitimate land claim.

I just copied and sent these pictures to Stockwell Day. Is he not responsible for public safety?????
Everyone should send a copy to their MP! Ask for their comments on this.........

I will NOT say anything politically incorrect. I will NOT say anything politically incorrect. I will NOT....I guess we don't need to worry about losing any Harper votes around those flags.

/sarc off

The OPP are on the hunt for a fugitive near the Cayuga courthouse and could use the public's help...

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/breakingnews/breakingnews_6771118.html

My bet is on the fugitive...

I think that this situation is under the provincial gov't - ie - McGuinty, who has already shown us that he is totally incapable of dealing with it. His tactic is akin to the leftist tactic in the ME: - do something fast to shut them up.

Apparently the Six Nation's official reaction to the judge's order to leave - is a refusal. After all, they don't consider themselves citizens of Canada - even though they accept our money.

I don't think they are interested in negotiations with anyone. And, if they say that they did NOT cede the land 200 years ago, then, what have they been doing about this situation for the past 200 years?

My speculation is that the perpetrators are simply and only, a bunch of thugs; their agenda is to obtain publicity - a form of power - and link up with other native-thug types across the country. It's a mode of easy money, easy power and not much else. Would they develop the land if it was 'theirs'? Would they farm it? Would they build homes on it? What would they do? Probably nothing - for such actions don't generate publicity and emotions.

The sight of the flag desecration really tics me off.

The Maple Leaf flag is a bit of a Lib invention but it has grown on me over time, especially after seeing all the blood and tears Canadians have spilled beneath that flag in the WOT.

Re: Burning the flag.

I gotta admit, one of my favorite pics from the WOT is that guy lighting himself on fire while trying to burn the Stars and Stripes.

I think someone at Caledonia may have also seen that pic as so far the Indians have stuck to tearing the Maple Leaf flag up.

"I wait with breathless anticipation at the CBC's coverage of this. Too bad my TV has a CBC parental block. Will someone, with a stronger stomach than I, keep us posted?"
Posted by: Cheri at August 8, 2006 11:00 AM

I managed to stomach the CBC news at 2:00 pm and they had a live quote from Mr. McGuilty (who is in Niagara Falls today). His comment was that his government will obviously have to review the court order and he will have to talk to the Prime Minister again - as the last time he and the Prime Minister spoke, they were both in agreement that the best way to resolve the issue was at the negotiating table.

Anyway, there isn't any real hurry. The crisis is important enough that the governments negotiators are off on 3 weeks of vacation. Negotiations are not set to resume until August 24th.

David

Thank you for the perfect example of left-wing absurdity. Your post shows exactly why the liberal left needs some time in the political wilderness. When something goes badly, there's always someone else to blame, isn't there?

What about the idea of decisive leadership for the good of the general population of your constituency? Who could Dalton call to learn about such things??? Someone in Ottawa, perhaps?

I betcha the judge's orders will NOT be obeyed this time, either. Maybe Dolton McPussy will invoke the Notwithstanding Clause to avoid the judge's meddling in his racial-preference activities which clearly violate the Charter, IMHO.

And, not to feed trolls, but I note that David Brown fails to provide any evidence to bolster his claims about the Harris gov't. To my knowledge, the Harris Tories cracked down on the terroristic behavior of the few Indian extremists who tried to get their way regardless of the law and the Charter. There never was a Caledonia-type interracial crisis under the Harris Tories. If DB can prove there was, let him. I hold not my breath. Back to work now.

"We have had a simple view of life in that we expect those we put in charge of our peace actually take their job seriously and intend to do it."

Right on, Snowbunnie. I'm sure these thugs were bullying their fellow students and teachers in grade school. As "Aboriginals"--Natives, Indians, whatever--are a protected group, not held to the high standards the rest of us are expected to adhere to, administration would have given them and their, most likely, activist parents all kinds of leeway. Behaviour codes don't apply to these "Canadians", though they receive far more public $$ than the rest of us lackies.

The apathy of far too many acquiescent, flabby (too comfortable) Canadians has allowed this to happen.

How the mighty have fallen.

The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of our Missing in Action Ontario government.

Time for them to get their heads out of the sand or somebody's going to boot them in the rear! (Hopefully the voters).

Isn't it funny how when the courts declare some liberal talking point the new law of the land (despite it not being found in any actual laws including the charter,) there must be no questioning the court.

The court is the be-all and end-all of Canada.

To fail to drop to your knees and worship the judges every decree is anti-Canadian - until the court tells them to cross a special interest group in which case it's "Court? what court?"

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.html

Here we go again. Just as soon as somebody gets the least bit annoyed, out comes the matches and gasoline!

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.html

Here we go again. Just as soon as somebody gets the least bit annoyed, out comes the matches and gasoline!

With the record of the McGoonty government we should be thankful they are on vacation. McGoonty has to tread water on the Indian file after all the flack they shoveled over Harris' handling of the Indians. If the Natives, Aboriginals, Indians, whatever , wish to claim half the land in Ontario the stage is now set, no opposition or fight from the great Dullard. Not only will he give them the land they claim, they'll do a payout to the lawful holder of the deed, it's only our money, remember. Of course add to that, the development and real estate on the claims . It's a collossal and absolute disgrace. One day someone with a guts/brain combination will sort this mess, no sign of that someone at this time.

[quote]As a prime example it was Diefenbacher's cancellation of the Avro Arrow program that started the ball rolling that is causing the continuing decline of our armed forces.[/quote]

David Brown, as a serving member of the CF, I can assure you, the last thirty years of decline of our forces is the responsibility of the government that has been in power for the majority of that time, not the Conservatives.

Diefenbacher was a moron yes... It would seem that it is better to have a semi decent moron, the the craven two faced rat bastards we have been saddled with for the past too many years.

Interesting to see a PM that actually keeps promises. What a novel idea.

What utter stupidity you people are displaying.

The power to negotiate this deal is the federal government: ie., your flabby messiah, Stephen Harper.

It's a First Nations land claim. Go do some serious reading about the federal government's dilatory response to native land claims and then come back and apologize for being such morons.

Thanks for the update sick and tired, as am I. Particualarily of situations such as this: "His tough talk would be more convincing if he threw a few high ranking officials in the slammer for contempt of court." INDEED Kate!

Or truisms such as this: "Anyway, there isn't any real hurry. The crisis is important enough that the governments negotiators are off on 3 weeks of vacation. Negotiations are not set to resume until August 24th." I shudder to think of what will happen in the meantime, which in bureaucratic time, is about half the speed of smell, to use Ron White's quote(?). An eternity for the families living there, including the poor gentleman who was stoned.

Marshall still could toss some of the brass responsible in their very own clink. no doubt that is in the back of his mind.

that would be interesting.

why do schmucks so quickly find themselves in similar location but those at the VERY TOP of the administration of justice and law seem to be impervious to its application ???

Thwap,

only a provincial jurisdiction when convenient to you huh? Homey don't play that game no more.

I want to hear Dalton McGuinty say he can't handle this file and call in the Feds. I want to hear him admit defeat.

Uh, Mr. Cooper, unless the provinces have gotten the power to negotiate land claims, this is a federal matter.

I mean, I'm sorry that that's inconvenient for you and all the other self-pitying blowhards here, but it means that your dead-eyed weirdo Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, is the guy who is ducking his responsibility here.

Don't tell me that it takes a lefty to have to lecture Harper on "personal responsibility."

This is a federal matter and he's nowhere in sight.

And I'd guess McGuinty would want to avoid the absolute mess that Harris made of Ipperwash.

Our treatment of the First Nations Peoples is an international disgrace, and I guess it's thanks to the whining racists who post here that some cruddy politicians see that continuing to abuse Indians is a vote-getter.

Slightly off topic (although it does involve the government of Ontario...)

I just got my referral to a specialist (whose name and contact I've deleted as it's not the specific doctor's fault.)

Here is the email notification of the appointment:

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Notice anything that doesn't seem quite right? Why yes, that IS an appointment for May 25, 2007.

Thank God none of you are the politicians in this Ontario, because every one of you has advocated for an escalation of this situation.

If you were Dalton M you too would all be afraid to be the person identified in canadian history as the person that stoked up the flames to make another "Oka".

Thats why none of YOUR favorite "conservative" politicians have jumpeed into the fray. They too are afraid of being labeled as the instigator of this situation. Thats why no politician have labelled the protestors at caledonia as "terrorists" as many of you have.

So people your comments are unrealistic, please keep things real.

I'm surprized that "Kate" keeps a daily note on this situation. It makes me believe that "Kate" prefers a confrontational, violent approach to solving situation. This is true because she never provides the legal land claim context in her blog. "Kate" wishes to keep all of you in the dark on this issue.

So please act responsibly, act like a politician who has the best interestsa of all his/her constituents in mind - First Nations and non-First Nation.

unless the provinces have gotten the power to negotiate land claims, this is a federal matter.

If that is true, why did the province butt in and buy the land?

"What utter stupidity you people are displaying.

The power to negotiate this deal is the federal government: ie., your flabby messiah, Stephen Harper.

It's a First Nations land claim. Go do some serious reading about the federal government's dilatory response to native land claims and then come back and apologize for being such morons.

Posted by: thwap at August 8, 2006 03:14 PM "

" You people" ?? " First Nations" .." Such Morons"???
One assumes that those commenting here are Canadian or at least resident. In light of that assumption one would think that those of us who express outrage, dismay over blatant criminal behaviour and acts against law abiding citizens are somehow apart enough from the rest of Canada to be catagorized as " YOU PEOPLE" ??!!
I seriously doubt that. For how Caledonia goes so goes the rest of us peaceful, law abiding citizens who most days find it impossible to raise any interest from the OPP until they start fighting back. Having begun to fight back, mind you, because they have watched their OPP do absolutely NOTHING to protect them from criminals.
WHEN THEY DO FIGHT BACK the OPP then move to protect the CRIMINALS.
And WE are "morons" for objecting to what every right thinking person would object to: the abject rejection of OPP responsibility unless it is to protect native criminal behaviour.
Let's get it straight:
First Nations ... that is a misnomer deliberatly injected into the vocabulary for one purpose: to give a tawdry collection of 'tribes' more validity than they ought. There has NEVER been a FIRST nation on Canadian soil. There were tribes of various sizes and political and cultural makeup. They never ever fit the description of "Nation" ever. They fought among themselves and lived a primitive life and in some cases , still do.
Their validity has been bourne out of an apologist government who seem to think we all owe everyone who ever breathed an apology for taking a land and making something out of it.
If the Indian tribes wished to be a 'nation'they could have done so many years before the white man arrived, but they did not.
Many behaved like savages and still do. Many were decent and honourable and still are. Much like the makeup of any group of people.
But lets , once and for all, get over the notion that the 'land claims' are anything but what they are: An attempt to replay and rewrite history and gain land that does not belong to them so whitey can feel 'cleansed' about conquering the west and making something good out of it for the entire population and for future citizens.
Natives were owed some retribution for wrong doing in the past and that has mostly been dealt with as the Douglas Creek land had already been dealt with and sold.
Just because some militants think they can take this issue and demand what is not theirs any longer is no reason for the complete and utter breakdown of our society and order.
THIS is what the McGuinty government and the OPP as their enforcement arm has allowed to happen.
THEY have abandoned their responsiblity on every level.
Government has the responsibility to protect it's citizens. First and foremost.
Unless the Ontario government has been sworn in as members of the Six Nations tribe they have been busy protecting the wrong people.
As for Stephen Harper our illustrious PM. The only time I want to see him involved is when he sends in the troops to remove these miscreants from land that does not belong to them and restore peace and order in Caledonia. And THEN take a switch to the McGuinty government and the OPP.... but then I think the citizens of Ontario will take care of that nicely next time around!

"So please act responsibly, act like a politician who has the best interestsa of all his/her constituents in mind - First Nations and non-First Nation."

I think that the "non-first nation" residents of Caledonia would have a good laugh at this statement.

"unless the provinces have gotten the power to negotiate land claims, this is a federal matter."

Negotiating land claims is under provincial jurisdiction.

Beardy,

I suppose that expecting all citizens to obey the law is too much for some of our "citizens" to deal with so the rest of us should just take it?

What happened to some people 200 years ago should have no bearing on what the law does to lawbreakers in 2006. I expect that lawbreakers will be arrested and put in jail - not rewarded with my money. If they resist violently, I would expect dead bad guys the same as any other criminal. I don't care if they're occupying some land or a bank. Violent thugs should be shot dead. Their long-lost ancestors be damned.