sadly, it is closer to the truth than most think....these idiots are indirectly supporting the taliban, who are killing canadian soldiers...not long ago these acts would be bordering on criminal
Along with some other posters here,I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Do not forget,there were other'high-profile'libs and NDPers who went on this junket and originally supported him in these remarks.What rock did they crawl under to escape public scrutiny?
This is gutter politics at its worse. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense.
So, a Liberal MP and a Liberal supporting teenager on the youth executive speak and step out of line with the party position on the terrorist organization Hezbollah (which the Liberals put on the terrorist list, BTW), they both forced to resign/get fired immediately because their views are contrary to the party's views... and the Liberals are terrorist apologists????
But a Conservative MP attends a meeting of an Iranian right wing terrorist group and it's "stupid" to make any comparison? Does anyone remember the election campaign when Harper attended a fundraiser for a Nazi-supporting group? What was everyone's reaction here? Can't impute on the whole party what one person says or thinks or does! Even when it is the leader of the party!!!
I'll file this latest hypocrisy under "Our Principles Do Not Apply To Us". I think we're up to number 86?
Real debates.
With opposing viewpoints.
On our streets.
I'm not making this up.
Er, um, if anyone has stifled debate in this country, it is the left, the politically correct, and the Liberal "Da Canadian Values (tm)" Party of Canada.
Bill Graham should have removed Borys from caucus. Immediately. Yet in typical Liberal fashion, Graham danced around the subject, offering only, “There was no suggestion on his part that he was speaking on behalf of the Liberal Party”(Vancouver Sun, August 22) It is pretty hard to believe that a Liberal MP – who has gone on a fact-finding mission as the sole representative
Borys
of the Liberal Party – presumably to report back his findings to Parliament and the Liberal caucus – was not speaking on behalf of the Liberals. And if Borys was not speaking for the party, why did Graham send him to Middle East as a representative? Graham knew exactly the situation Borys was going into. Graham had a large part to play in labelling Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in the first place, as it was during his time as Foreign Affairs Minister that the group was listed as such. ...-
Gutter politics!
Gutter politics is terrorist paid for asswipe politicos sniping our own country from a terrorist organized junket.
Gutter politics does not involve conservatives pointing this out.
I'll file this latest hypocrisy under "Our Principles Do Not Apply To Us". I think we're up to number 86?
So then, let us get into this pissing match and see what number the Liberals are up to. Perhaps that number should be squared so that it can fit on the screen.
I wonder how the Lier's feel with the shoe on the other foot????
Does it sound like: "Sinking Ship!!!!Man over board!!! Oh I meant Liebral's Ship Sinking.....Party over board!!!
(Please don't run out and through any life preservers.....)
Bill Graham - "There was no suggestion on his part that he was speaking on behalf of the Liberal Party".
So if a Liberal does good for the Party and it benifits all Liberals and Canadians (don't EVER forget that according to Liberals, THEIR values are CANADIAN values), its on behalf of the LPC. BUT, if a Liberal fucks up, then he doesn't speak on behalf of the LPC.
grit partiot says...
...This is gutter politics at its worse. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense.
i say...
the grits invented gutter politics so you should know all about how its employed. power at all costs is the liberal mantra.
Let me see if I understand the defence to my assertions here.
You are saying that it doesn't matter how hypocritical, how many principles are abandoned, how low the Conservatives get because the Liberals were bad? Is that it?
A little awkward for a campaign slogan, but I say go with it anyway. Always speak the truth!
Oh, and Maz2, to answer your question, why is Borys still an MP? Because he was elected by Canadian voters. You guys have only been in power for half a year and don't even have a majority yet and you are already pushing for a modification of democratic elections???
I'm holding my sides while reading Gritpatriot's shocked and appalled post: "This is gutter politics at its worse [sic]. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense."
Well, for a start Grit, you must be too close to the action to not realize that this website which so shocks and appalls you is just business as usual for the Libs and their cheerleaders in the MSM. You might not have recognized it, however, because the MSM aren't purposely doing parody, they just always spin CPC/PMSH stuff the same way. Maybe you need "truth, no-s*it" glasses to be able to see what they're doing. Sorry you don't have any.
As for having a real debate about foreign policy, how is that going to happen? The Liberals had 13 years in which to have "a real debate" and blew it every time. Now that the CPC are the government, hardly any Librano$ show up to debate anything, let alone foreign policy.
Gritpatriot, the chickens are coming home to roost. Corrupt, dishonest, charged with criminal wrongdoing, irresponsible, unaccountable political party, the ex-government, is finally being smoked out of the henhouse. Ruffled, singed feathers: I don't think these hens are going to be able to fly anytime soon.
You are saying that it doesn't matter how hypocritical, how many principles are abandoned, how low the Conservatives get because the Liberals were bad? Is that it?
No, just that the Liberals were/are worse. Thus, any judgement that a Liberal thinks he can pass on ethical behavior and actions is a pathetic joke.
The treasonous Liberal activity of supporting and financing terrorism is historic there, ah, Ted.
Tamil Tigers fund raisers?
Chretien personally and successfully dealing with Pakistan in order to get the terrorist Khadr released?
Former foreign affairs minister Manley's insane invitation to settle the Palestinians in Canada?
Trudeau the elder and the younger's worship of Castro?
Until they give up their post modern version of socialism and every decrepid 'value' that's spawned by it - Liberals have no place in our country's future.
Freekin' good satire I think!
Whasamatter all you pipsqeak little liberals?
I've seen the CBC post more virulent crap on their site at the Taxpayers expense yet!
I think it might help to understand PMSH and Canadas position and reasoning on this issue and the sda Nazi rule is probably not applicable to the PM. :0)
He (Kenny), and Harper, compared Hezbollah to the Nazi party in Germany:
Harper was being factually and historically correct when he compared Hezbollah to the German Nazi party - pre 1933.
The Nazis held a few seats in the German parliment (pre-1933), but had a massive armed force, the SA (Sturmabteilung), which was used for terror and helped bring the Nazis to power and was also essentially a State within a State.
And similarly, the regular German army (in the late '20s and early '30s) was powerless to bring the SA & Nazis under control, just like the Labonese army is powerless to control Hezbollah.
47 posted on 08/24/2006 8:00:33 AM PDT by CaptainCanada
So it's screw the 24 million Canadians who didn't vote Liberal because Conservatives (surprise! surprise!) think the Liberals are bad??
"Screw"? LOL. Ted, the difference is between knowing it, and thinking it. We've all seen and know of examples of Liberal incompetence from the last 13 years. I mean, c'mon sir, they didn't even realize that a budget vote was being passed in the HOC. Basically they woke up and said "whaaa....whaaaa.....whaaaa....what just happened?" Their latest caucas meeting was a farce. They can't even be an effective Opposition and they want to be the GOVERNMENT??
LOL, yeah ok.
And considering the very recent past and present corruption within the LPC, they can hardly pass ethical and moral judgements upon others. Oh, they can if they WANT to, but it just makes them look rather silly.
The only defence - the only defence - offered by any of the above commenters to Jason Kenney supporting a pro-Iranian terrorist group, on behalf of the PM no less, is that the Liberals are bad.
Unbelievable. The only defence - the only defence - offered by any of the above commenters to Jason Kenney supporting a pro-Iranian terrorist group, on behalf of the PM no less, is that the Liberals are bad.
Oh quit the avoidance tactic Ted. Full points for effort, but its really quite sad.
No one is saying that the CPC hasn't had issues and problems. But for a Party that is obviously more at home with corruption and scandal, both ery recent and current, the LPC is the LAST group to pass judgement of any ethical kind on ANYONE.
You see Ted, you can say that we think the "Liberals are bad" all you want. We already know that. The point is that the Liberals are worse. And for them to think that they can credibily pass judgement on ANYONE is an utter joke.
I was very critical of Martin's gutter politics in the last election, my friend, so please can you give *me* a break.
Look it's simple: Jason Kenney attended a pro-Iranian terrorist group rally on behalf of Prime Minister Harper. Is there not anyone here who will condemn such support for terrorism? Anyone? C'mon just one person!
Point taken, Ted. But how about this...Borys came out and said we should NOT call them terrorists and should negotiate with them...that is, he took an active stand on their behalf. From the little that I have seen and read (I've not researched it), Kenney attended a function.
I would say that there is a major difference there.
On one hand, several Liberals can be shown attending functions put on by terrorist organizations (Borys with Hezbollah, Martin with the Tamil Tigers and that other guy that was running Gerard Kennedy's campaign who attended whatever organizations shin-dig), with at least one speaking on their behalf, while on the other hand, we have one Conservative attending a function.
If you were to apply some statistics with only the few situations I am aware of and noted above, you'd have to say that Liberals are at least 300% more likely than Conservatives to be influenced by terrorists.
Better, but I'm still not seeing any condemnation or denunciation.
Borys got fired as soon as he got back to Canada for his remarks.
The Kennedy supporter (not organizer) was a stupid teenager holding a menial position in the youth organization. And even he got fired.
Kenney? Still no condemnation.
Maybe this is apples to oranges. But how about Dennis Coderre attending a pro-peace rally, that is also attended by a few pro-Hezbollah idiots, denouncing those idiots, but Conservatives running all over him as some sort of pro-Hezbollah terrorist apologist?
Meanwhile Kenney? Nothing.
And Kenney didn't just merely "attend" the function by the way. He was right up there on the podium speaking and welcoming them. The photos are coming out online now as we speak. As of a little while ago, the photos were still up on that terrorist organizations website!
Ted . . not sure how you determined they were a "terrorist Organization. They don't appear on the State Dept list. Their linkage with MEC is tenuous a best.
They are very anti the current Iran Mullahocracy . . . .
This list was current as of October 11, 2005.
1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) (International)
2. Abu Sayyaf Group (Philippines)
3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Palestine)
4. Ansar al-Islam (Iraq, Kurdistan)
5. Armed Islamic Group (GIA) (Algeria)
6. Asbat al-Ansar (Lebanon)
7. Aum Shinrikyo (Japan)
8. Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) (Spain, France)
9. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA) (Philippines)
10. Continuity Irish Republican Army (Northern Ireland)
11. East Turkestan Islamic Movement (China)
12. East Turkistan Liberation Organization (China)
13. Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Translates: Islamic Group) (Egypt)
14. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) (Palestine)
15. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM) (Kashmir)
16. Hizballah (Translates: Party of God) (Lebanon)
17. Islamic Jihad Group
18. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) (Uzbekistan)
19. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Translates: Army of Mohammed) (Kashmir)
20. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI) (South East Asia)
21. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad) (Egypt)
22. Kahane Chai (Kach) (Israel)
23. Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK) (Kurdistan)
24. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous) (Kashmir)
25. Lashkar i Jhangvi (Pakistan)
26. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) (Sri Lanka)
27. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) (Libya)
28. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM) (Morocco)
29. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) (Iran)
30. National Liberation Army (ELN) (Colombia)
31. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) (Palestine)
32. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) (Palestine)
33. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) (Palestine)
34. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC) (Palestine)
35. al-Qa’ida (Global)
36. Real IRA (Northern Ireland)
37. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) (Colombia)
38. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA) (Greece)
39. Revolutionary Organization 17 November (Greece)
40. Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C) (Turkey)
41. Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC) (Algeria)
42. Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) (Peru)
43. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network) (Iraq)
44. United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC) (Colombia)
Who Ted! Comparing the Liberal's support for a recognized (even by the former Liberal Government) terrorist organization dedicated to the "elimination of the Zionist Entity" to PM Harper speaking at the The Canadian Alliance for Social Justice and Family Values Association (which you have characterized as Far Right) without naming it, giving the impression of the PM consorting with NeoNazis is inexcuseable spin even for a Liberal. Anything you say now has no currency and will be treated as propaganda.
Ted, I don’t know what he attended, I need more info.
My first question is, did he know he was attending a terrorist group? If he did, the RCMP must also know we have a terrorist group holding meetings here in Canada (I assume he didn’t go to the ME) and why is that group even in business on our soil and not arrested by the RCMP?
Mississauga Matt: If your question was directed at me, I'd have to plead ignorance...I was just going on the basis of the claims of the Lefties posting here. He supposedly attended some pro-Iranian thing-a-ma-jig...terrorist or not, I have no idea. For the sake of poor old Ted, I thought I'd "throw him a bone".
On the other hand, the Liberal's hosts are (I believe) clearly labelled as terrorists.
Re; the Kenney supports Iranian Terrorist org BS...
I believe that "Ted" may mean that the group in question Opposes the Mullacracy of Iran..thus are "terrorists" to the Iranian regime. That would be more consistent with the liberal warp of world views I think!
Of course simply making unfounded assertions without facts or knowledge to back them up is also right in the groove for
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Why is Jason Kenney hanging with an Iranian right wing terrorist group? What's good for the goose - is good for the gander.
http://www.ncr-iran.org/images/stories/demonstrations/ottawa-kenney-6apr.jpg
So LeftDog, you admit that it is ok for the gander(s) to do likewise?
My word, you're stupid.
Oh my God, that is just too good. Who's making these things?
we need to put that in add form and run it in the G&M and Red Star for all the drooling idiots to see.
sadly, it is closer to the truth than most think....these idiots are indirectly supporting the taliban, who are killing canadian soldiers...not long ago these acts would be bordering on criminal
Ha ha. Hezboliberal and Hamabequois.
Absolutely brilliant! If only it weren't breathtakingly close to the truth.
Along with some other posters here,I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Do not forget,there were other'high-profile'libs and NDPers who went on this junket and originally supported him in these remarks.What rock did they crawl under to escape public scrutiny?
RIP Nealenews!
Thius story is all over LGF this morning. The LIEberals are toast.
Book recommendation: Civilization and its Enemies by Lee Harris.
At the end he makes three recommendations to preserve our civiization:
1. The United States must maintain Pax Americana. There is no other choice that is not grounded in fantasy ideology [ALL leftist belief].
2. The media and intelligensia/academia must STFU for at least one minute and begin to critique themselves for a change.
3. We must educate ourselves on the past and again begin to appreciate the rich heritage of Greco-Roman Judeo-Christian Western culture.
The option is to devolve to Civil and cultural wars and all hell will unleash with one Islamic rogue nuke. It's just a matter of time.
This is gutter politics at its worse. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense.
So, a Liberal MP and a Liberal supporting teenager on the youth executive speak and step out of line with the party position on the terrorist organization Hezbollah (which the Liberals put on the terrorist list, BTW), they both forced to resign/get fired immediately because their views are contrary to the party's views... and the Liberals are terrorist apologists????
But a Conservative MP attends a meeting of an Iranian right wing terrorist group and it's "stupid" to make any comparison? Does anyone remember the election campaign when Harper attended a fundraiser for a Nazi-supporting group? What was everyone's reaction here? Can't impute on the whole party what one person says or thinks or does! Even when it is the leader of the party!!!
I'll file this latest hypocrisy under "Our Principles Do Not Apply To Us". I think we're up to number 86?
Ted
Cerberus
Real debates.
With opposing viewpoints.
On our streets.
I'm not making this up.
Er, um, if anyone has stifled debate in this country, it is the left, the politically correct, and the Liberal "Da Canadian Values (tm)" Party of Canada.
Lib MP Denis Coderre is the national co-chairman of Iggy Ignatieff's Lib leadership push.
Coderre marched in the infamous "We Are All Hezbollah Now" demonstration in Montreal.
Does Ignatieff know this? Does Ignatieff support Coderre/Hezbollah?
Does Ignatieff know that the aim/goal of Hezbollah, is that of its master, Iran: the annihilation of Israel/the death of all Jews?
Will Ignatieff disown/dump/fire Coderre? ...-
http://www.libsforhezbollah.com/
Why is Borys still a Liberal MP?
Bill Graham should have removed Borys from caucus. Immediately. Yet in typical Liberal fashion, Graham danced around the subject, offering only, “There was no suggestion on his part that he was speaking on behalf of the Liberal Party”(Vancouver Sun, August 22) It is pretty hard to believe that a Liberal MP – who has gone on a fact-finding mission as the sole representative
Borys
of the Liberal Party – presumably to report back his findings to Parliament and the Liberal caucus – was not speaking on behalf of the Liberals. And if Borys was not speaking for the party, why did Graham send him to Middle East as a representative? Graham knew exactly the situation Borys was going into. Graham had a large part to play in labelling Hezbollah as a terrorist organization in the first place, as it was during his time as Foreign Affairs Minister that the group was listed as such. ...-
Gutter politics!
Gutter politics is terrorist paid for asswipe politicos sniping our own country from a terrorist organized junket.
Gutter politics does not involve conservatives pointing this out.
I'll file this latest hypocrisy under "Our Principles Do Not Apply To Us". I think we're up to number 86?
So then, let us get into this pissing match and see what number the Liberals are up to. Perhaps that number should be squared so that it can fit on the screen.
I wonder how the Lier's feel with the shoe on the other foot????
Does it sound like: "Sinking Ship!!!!Man over board!!! Oh I meant Liebral's Ship Sinking.....Party over board!!!
(Please don't run out and through any life preservers.....)
Bill Graham - "There was no suggestion on his part that he was speaking on behalf of the Liberal Party".
So if a Liberal does good for the Party and it benifits all Liberals and Canadians (don't EVER forget that according to Liberals, THEIR values are CANADIAN values), its on behalf of the LPC. BUT, if a Liberal fucks up, then he doesn't speak on behalf of the LPC.
I see..............
"Perhaps that number should be squared so that it can fit on the screen."
We might need exponential or factorial notation for that number.
grit partiot says...
...This is gutter politics at its worse. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense.
i say...
the grits invented gutter politics so you should know all about how its employed. power at all costs is the liberal mantra.
aslandic, thanks for your posts. I LOVE the lack of available screen size dig ;-)
Let me see if I understand the defence to my assertions here.
You are saying that it doesn't matter how hypocritical, how many principles are abandoned, how low the Conservatives get because the Liberals were bad? Is that it?
A little awkward for a campaign slogan, but I say go with it anyway. Always speak the truth!
Oh, and Maz2, to answer your question, why is Borys still an MP? Because he was elected by Canadian voters. You guys have only been in power for half a year and don't even have a majority yet and you are already pushing for a modification of democratic elections???
Ted
More detail on the appalling hypocrisy of ignoring Jason Kenney's support for Iranian terrorism, while criticizing the Liberals when they dump their pro-Hezbollah supporters over here: http://canadiancerberus.blogspot.com/2006/08/our-principles-do-not-apply-to-us-part.html
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LOL!!
I'm holding my sides while reading Gritpatriot's shocked and appalled post: "This is gutter politics at its worse [sic]. Is political debate going to evolve into opponents creating these kinds of websites to skewer each other. How about a real debate baout foreign policy instead of this nonsense."
Well, for a start Grit, you must be too close to the action to not realize that this website which so shocks and appalls you is just business as usual for the Libs and their cheerleaders in the MSM. You might not have recognized it, however, because the MSM aren't purposely doing parody, they just always spin CPC/PMSH stuff the same way. Maybe you need "truth, no-s*it" glasses to be able to see what they're doing. Sorry you don't have any.
As for having a real debate about foreign policy, how is that going to happen? The Liberals had 13 years in which to have "a real debate" and blew it every time. Now that the CPC are the government, hardly any Librano$ show up to debate anything, let alone foreign policy.
Gritpatriot, the chickens are coming home to roost. Corrupt, dishonest, charged with criminal wrongdoing, irresponsible, unaccountable political party, the ex-government, is finally being smoked out of the henhouse. Ruffled, singed feathers: I don't think these hens are going to be able to fly anytime soon.
'Looks good on them.
You are saying that it doesn't matter how hypocritical, how many principles are abandoned, how low the Conservatives get because the Liberals were bad? Is that it?
No, just that the Liberals were/are worse. Thus, any judgement that a Liberal thinks he can pass on ethical behavior and actions is a pathetic joke.
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Aslandic: so it's screw the 24 million Canadians who didn't vote Liberal because Conservatives (surprise! surprise!) think the Liberals are bad??
Ted
Ted/Cerberus: only 86 to 13,485--and that's BEFORE the leadership race, which has only just begun?
No comparison.
The treasonous Liberal activity of supporting and financing terrorism is historic there, ah, Ted.
Tamil Tigers fund raisers?
Chretien personally and successfully dealing with Pakistan in order to get the terrorist Khadr released?
Former foreign affairs minister Manley's insane invitation to settle the Palestinians in Canada?
Trudeau the elder and the younger's worship of Castro?
Until they give up their post modern version of socialism and every decrepid 'value' that's spawned by it - Liberals have no place in our country's future.
Might start by toppling a Trudeau statue.
OT: http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/opp/hartlessreport.html
Sorry for going of topic but this is a MUST read!
Gutter Politics??
Freekin' good satire I think!
Whasamatter all you pipsqeak little liberals?
I've seen the CBC post more virulent crap on their site at the Taxpayers expense yet!
If this offends you I am quite satisfied!
I copied this post from FR.
I think it might help to understand PMSH and Canadas position and reasoning on this issue and the sda Nazi rule is probably not applicable to the PM. :0)
He (Kenny), and Harper, compared Hezbollah to the Nazi party in Germany:
Harper was being factually and historically correct when he compared Hezbollah to the German Nazi party - pre 1933.
The Nazis held a few seats in the German parliment (pre-1933), but had a massive armed force, the SA (Sturmabteilung), which was used for terror and helped bring the Nazis to power and was also essentially a State within a State.
And similarly, the regular German army (in the late '20s and early '30s) was powerless to bring the SA & Nazis under control, just like the Labonese army is powerless to control Hezbollah.
47 posted on 08/24/2006 8:00:33 AM PDT by CaptainCanada
So it's screw the 24 million Canadians who didn't vote Liberal because Conservatives (surprise! surprise!) think the Liberals are bad??
"Screw"? LOL. Ted, the difference is between knowing it, and thinking it. We've all seen and know of examples of Liberal incompetence from the last 13 years. I mean, c'mon sir, they didn't even realize that a budget vote was being passed in the HOC. Basically they woke up and said "whaaa....whaaaa.....whaaaa....what just happened?" Their latest caucas meeting was a farce. They can't even be an effective Opposition and they want to be the GOVERNMENT??
LOL, yeah ok.
And considering the very recent past and present corruption within the LPC, they can hardly pass ethical and moral judgements upon others. Oh, they can if they WANT to, but it just makes them look rather silly.
This is the best thing I have seen. I like the "Get hezboliberal gear".
Unbelievable.
The only defence - the only defence - offered by any of the above commenters to Jason Kenney supporting a pro-Iranian terrorist group, on behalf of the PM no less, is that the Liberals are bad.
Amazing.
Ted
Gritpatriot says...."This is gutter politics at its worse."
I'm all for contrary opinion. Being the unsavory, rightwing reactionary that I am, I do request that contrary opinion have some substance to it.
Gutter politics at its worse, now that is good for a geniune, hearty, deep down, belly laugh.
If you want gutter politics at its very worse mr/ms patriot - Liberal election campaign, January 2006
Game, set, match.
Unbelievable. The only defence - the only defence - offered by any of the above commenters to Jason Kenney supporting a pro-Iranian terrorist group, on behalf of the PM no less, is that the Liberals are bad.
Oh quit the avoidance tactic Ted. Full points for effort, but its really quite sad.
No one is saying that the CPC hasn't had issues and problems. But for a Party that is obviously more at home with corruption and scandal, both ery recent and current, the LPC is the LAST group to pass judgement of any ethical kind on ANYONE.
You see Ted, you can say that we think the "Liberals are bad" all you want. We already know that. The point is that the Liberals are worse. And for them to think that they can credibily pass judgement on ANYONE is an utter joke.
I was very critical of Martin's gutter politics in the last election, my friend, so please can you give *me* a break.
Look it's simple: Jason Kenney attended a pro-Iranian terrorist group rally on behalf of Prime Minister Harper. Is there not anyone here who will condemn such support for terrorism? Anyone? C'mon just one person!
Ted
Point taken, Ted. But how about this...Borys came out and said we should NOT call them terrorists and should negotiate with them...that is, he took an active stand on their behalf. From the little that I have seen and read (I've not researched it), Kenney attended a function.
I would say that there is a major difference there.
On one hand, several Liberals can be shown attending functions put on by terrorist organizations (Borys with Hezbollah, Martin with the Tamil Tigers and that other guy that was running Gerard Kennedy's campaign who attended whatever organizations shin-dig), with at least one speaking on their behalf, while on the other hand, we have one Conservative attending a function.
If you were to apply some statistics with only the few situations I am aware of and noted above, you'd have to say that Liberals are at least 300% more likely than Conservatives to be influenced by terrorists.
Is that a better attempt, Ted?
You're not suggesting that Kenney knowingly spoke to a terrorist group, are you?
Hassle:
Better, but I'm still not seeing any condemnation or denunciation.
Borys got fired as soon as he got back to Canada for his remarks.
The Kennedy supporter (not organizer) was a stupid teenager holding a menial position in the youth organization. And even he got fired.
Kenney? Still no condemnation.
Maybe this is apples to oranges. But how about Dennis Coderre attending a pro-peace rally, that is also attended by a few pro-Hezbollah idiots, denouncing those idiots, but Conservatives running all over him as some sort of pro-Hezbollah terrorist apologist?
Meanwhile Kenney? Nothing.
And Kenney didn't just merely "attend" the function by the way. He was right up there on the podium speaking and welcoming them. The photos are coming out online now as we speak. As of a little while ago, the photos were still up on that terrorist organizations website!
Ted
Ted . . not sure how you determined they were a "terrorist Organization. They don't appear on the State Dept list. Their linkage with MEC is tenuous a best.
They are very anti the current Iran Mullahocracy . . . .
This list was current as of October 11, 2005.
1. Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) (International)
2. Abu Sayyaf Group (Philippines)
3. Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (Palestine)
4. Ansar al-Islam (Iraq, Kurdistan)
5. Armed Islamic Group (GIA) (Algeria)
6. Asbat al-Ansar (Lebanon)
7. Aum Shinrikyo (Japan)
8. Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) (Spain, France)
9. Communist Party of the Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA) (Philippines)
10. Continuity Irish Republican Army (Northern Ireland)
11. East Turkestan Islamic Movement (China)
12. East Turkistan Liberation Organization (China)
13. Gama'a al-Islamiyya (Translates: Islamic Group) (Egypt)
14. HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) (Palestine)
15. Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM) (Kashmir)
16. Hizballah (Translates: Party of God) (Lebanon)
17. Islamic Jihad Group
18. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) (Uzbekistan)
19. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Translates: Army of Mohammed) (Kashmir)
20. Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI) (South East Asia)
21. al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad) (Egypt)
22. Kahane Chai (Kach) (Israel)
23. Kongra-Gel (KGK, formerly Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, KADEK) (Kurdistan)
24. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous) (Kashmir)
25. Lashkar i Jhangvi (Pakistan)
26. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) (Sri Lanka)
27. Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) (Libya)
28. Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM) (Morocco)
29. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) (Iran)
30. National Liberation Army (ELN) (Colombia)
31. Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) (Palestine)
32. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) (Palestine)
33. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) (Palestine)
34. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC) (Palestine)
35. al-Qa’ida (Global)
36. Real IRA (Northern Ireland)
37. Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) (Colombia)
38. Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA) (Greece)
39. Revolutionary Organization 17 November (Greece)
40. Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C) (Turkey)
41. Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC) (Algeria)
42. Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) (Peru)
43. Tanzim Qa'idat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (QJBR) (al-Qaida in Iraq) (formerly Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'al-Jihad, JTJ, al-Zarqawi Network) (Iraq)
44. United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC) (Colombia)
... on behalf of Prime Minister Harper.
According to Parkdale Dipper and terrorist apologist Peggy Nash.
This lady is regularly on The Michael Coren Show and takes a regular pounding for her dopey views.
So if you click on the "HOME" link, it takes you to the Liberal.ca home page. If you click on the Headline, you link to Warren Kinsella.
Who Ted! Comparing the Liberal's support for a recognized (even by the former Liberal Government) terrorist organization dedicated to the "elimination of the Zionist Entity" to PM Harper speaking at the The Canadian Alliance for Social Justice and Family Values Association (which you have characterized as Far Right) without naming it, giving the impression of the PM consorting with NeoNazis is inexcuseable spin even for a Liberal. Anything you say now has no currency and will be treated as propaganda.
Ted, I don’t know what he attended, I need more info.
My first question is, did he know he was attending a terrorist group? If he did, the RCMP must also know we have a terrorist group holding meetings here in Canada (I assume he didn’t go to the ME) and why is that group even in business on our soil and not arrested by the RCMP?
Mississauga Matt: If your question was directed at me, I'd have to plead ignorance...I was just going on the basis of the claims of the Lefties posting here. He supposedly attended some pro-Iranian thing-a-ma-jig...terrorist or not, I have no idea. For the sake of poor old Ted, I thought I'd "throw him a bone".
On the other hand, the Liberal's hosts are (I believe) clearly labelled as terrorists.
Re; the Kenney supports Iranian Terrorist org BS...
I believe that "Ted" may mean that the group in question Opposes the Mullacracy of Iran..thus are "terrorists" to the Iranian regime. That would be more consistent with the liberal warp of world views I think!
Of course simply making unfounded assertions without facts or knowledge to back them up is also right in the groove for
Sorry Hassle, not you.
The obvious difference is that Kenney claims he unknowingly attended, whereas some Libs and Dips want to cuddle with known terrorists.
And taking Peggy Nash's word that Harper sent Kenney is pretty lame.
Fred:
#29. Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) (Iran)
Thanks for pointing it out for everyone.
Ted