Fire At Caledonia

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Caledonia Wakeup Call on events as they reportedly evolved this evening;

10:50 Confirmed through police source that 6 native were hurt - 4 taking away to hospital.

9:35 - Hi Gary got your email at 8.17 was at DCE by 8.32 the flames were out but a lot of Fire Trucks, saw 2 Ambulances leaving heading for Hagersville. Do you think now the natives will Sue the government because they allowed them to stay in stolen houses that are not safe ? sure wouldn't surprise me.

9:20 - Six Nations Police and OPP were not permitted to enter DCE land - no police allowed on this land - Wild West Times and complete lawlessness.

9:10 - Don't forget that this is a crime scene and again there were 3 injured people that now the crime cannot be investigated because the OPP/Six Nations did not and could not secure the crime scene again.

8:50 - I back on to DCE and yes there was in fact a fire. I have just heard that there was an explosion in one of the homes and 3 are wounded and 2 are down. I saw there were a ton of Oshweken firetrucks, and two ambulances.

As of 7:40 pm one home on the DCE land is currently on fire. Natives are on the roof, chopping away at the roof. Scanners report that Natives have told Six Nations Police not to show up

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Photos at the link.

Checking both CBC and CTV, there's no sign of this item on either website.

The Hamilton Spectator now has the story. Along with Jane Stewart's salary and expense allowance as "lead negotiator" for the McGuinty government. And, worth every penny of it, she is.

Update - from "Native News", via CWC;

One day after we heard that there were intentions to finish some of the unfinished homes on the reclamation site in Caledonia, trouble has found its way back to the disputed territory. A fire was set in one of the homes, allegedly by someone who was staying in the home, after they were asked to leave so that the house could be worked on. The person that was staying there said that they had been staying there from the start and that it was their home. They also said that they would set it on fire if they were forced to leave.



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Could that be the same Jane Stewart who gave us the HRDC coverup? And isn't it about time that Stephen Harper stepped on Dalton McGimpy?
Sheesh!

Perhaps the whole site should be bulldozed and return it to it's original splendor; thereby ridding it of the "urban blight" that the natives are so upset about.

....Canada has appointed “negotiators”, but our land is not negotiable. At least one of the appointees, Jane Stewart, is in a conflict of interest because she and her husband are involved in another mega housing project on our land....

pej.org

House with all windows covered with black bags?
Sudden flashes of bright light and smoke from a window?
Allegations that scanners picked up that the Mohawks told Six Nations cops not to attend?
I smell a grow op or, more likely, a meth lab.

That is all.

House with all windows covered with black bags?
Sudden flashes of bright light and smoke from a window?
Allegations that scanners picked up that the Mohawks told Six Nations cops not to attend?
I smell a grow op or, more likely, a meth lab.

That is all.

Strange explosion? Don't want police or fire response? Could have been a Jiffy-pop accident, I suppose and G-d knows I'm not suggesting anyone's a criminal but if it turns out that someone was cooking up crystal meth and blew the place up, will the OPP finally respond?

police respond....why would they now???...no one has lifted a finger to do anything about contraband smokes for years...poisoning our children with un-regulated tobacco...unfettered.....no warnings...no controls

No need for these gross "take back" theatrics, the red man has had his revenge. His invention "tobacco", which he freely gave to the Europeans, has decemated European populations with smoking related carnage which has rivaled and surpassed any plague. Pretty good pay-back. But I fear this will not suffice the more ardent racist elements in the neo-renegade culture.

JM, that is very interesting about Jane Stewart. Do you have any other sources to back up that allegation?

To me the only 'conflict of interest' would be that she would never want to see the end of these negotiations if she's raking in $1,300 a day.

I know from years of reading about this sort of "government work" that, when Jane Stewart says "I'm available seven days a week" she will bill for seven days a week. Thought about Caledonia while taking her morning shower? Check! A work day! Took a phone call or read something about Caledonia? Check! A work day!

Actually she might be limited by the "maximum" of "$300,000 for the 11-month contract. On top of that, she can charge up to $30,000 in expenses." This means, theoretically, she can only work about 230 days out of the about 330 day term of the contract. But, if she's smart, she can gobble up the $300,000 in less than 8 months by "working" 7 days a week. Then, if the situation is still unresolved (and when was the last time you heard of a government quickly resolving a situation, particularly one that will be in the courts for years to come?) her contract will be amended/extended.

The natives feel that Jane has a conflict of interest because her husband is supposedly a developer in Paris.

If that is indeed the case, shouldn't the nonnatives be screaming conflict of interest as she would be more willing for the Province to pay out buckets so that her husband can continue with his development.

To my way of thinking her involvement would only benefit the natives and not the government.

Asked how much she has billed the province, Stewart replied, "What I can say is I'm happy that the province is transparent about the salary I'm receiving. ... I'm happy to receive what they offered me and I will work hard to BURN it."

just checked. its near 9am EST and neither CTV(tass) or CBCpravda have got their hard working employees to the keyboards yet to put this on the website.

perhaps an oversite. after all they are reporting on Conrad Black and Radio Shack and any other corporate misdoings.

Don't forget David Peterson is a negotiator too: he called the Judge irrisponsible for ordering an end to the negotiations until the natives complied with the law: wonder how much he's getting paid? But at least we know that he can negotiate: he did bring Paul Martin Belinda BS.

I cannot believe the fear and intimidation that these Canadian citizens are living under. I see on this sight(wakeupcall) that there are flags (Mohawk) flying now in Hamilton. This is a mess, it will spread if the Federal government doesn't step in and bring law and order back.

CBC or CVT???? Who cares anymore! They wouldn't know a real news story if it hit them in the face! Thanks Kate for continuing to cover this story! Read SDA for the real stories!

I hope Jane doesn't stash her $330,000 with the 2 BILLION of our money she "lost" while heading the HRDC under Jean Cretien.
If Stephen Harper can develop a paper trail for "dat money" the next election is in the bag.

What are these super trough suckers negotiating, if there is a judges order to NOT negotiate as long as the land is occupied.

The Indians burned a van, they burned a foot bridge, they continually burn tires.
Who could have guessed that a mere month after the Indians took over a building by force, they would burn it?

CBCpravda on about a fire in Portage .


no political fallout associated with this.

The "conflict of interest" shouldn't be taken seriously. I believe that the claimed area is 700,000 hectares, 6 miles either side of the Grand River (this includes Kitchener and Cambridge and much more). Its like saying someone with a house in Vancouver is in a "conflict of interest" because some tribe is claiming that land. If you're Canadian, you likely have this "conflict of interest".

I'll add that the Indians claimed Judge Marshall had a "conflict of interest" because he owned land (did he live in a house or on an acreage or farm?). The Judge dismissed this saying they wouldn't find any local judge that didn't have such a "conflict of interest".

Just cut off the hydro. Unless we owe them that too.
Make sure any and all additional construction passes all building codes. Any building materials needed should not be transported on any of the Queens highways. There should be a toll booth at the entrance of the 6 nations reserve. Any group that feels it doesn't have to follow our laws, should be made to understand what's in store. We need topull ALL the largess that THEY take for granted. Then we can restart the negotiations.

Who cares about Jane Stewart's "conflict of interest"? The fact is she is sucking tax payers money again, with no accountabily,no results, and all bafflegab.What can she possible do to ensure the laws of our land are followed? Will we soon hear her all important comment on last night's fire? Are she and Dalton composing a 'statement' at the moment?CBC and CTV will cover that for sure!!
Or are they hiding and pretending it didn't really happen?
I also want to see our Prime Minister get more involved in this.Is he just giving Dalton enough rope to hang himself?

Putting Jane Stewart, the head of the HDRC disasrous 'throw-money-at-problems' tactic, ensures that Caledonia will be treated with the same well-worn Liberal tactics. Throw money at them to shut them up so that you, the Liberals, can continue in power.

The tactic is, that those affected by the real situation are, statistically, fewer in number than those who are not affected - and who don't know about the situation. So, silence the native criminals in Caledonia by flinging money at them, and ignore the legitimate rights of the non-native taxpayers in the area because they are, numerically, not enough to affect a change in the election.

What will affect a change in the election is for the broader public to hear about the situation. Keep the MSM out of it - and after all, the MSM are firmly Liberal and therefore, they will collaborate with the government.

een,

You forgot to add that the meth lab was probably staffed by drunken degenerates. Where is the TSSA when you need them.

Inevitable result of failure to enforce the law.

Liberal Logic = But it's all ok you see! Because no one got shot by the OPP.
Well not YET anyway!

If the taxpayers and voters in Ontario return this pathetic excuse for a government ( McGuinty Libs ) to Queens park they have only themselves to blame.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/08/31/1789505-cp.html

Well I guess that the media is sort of covering this. To bad that there was more of the story being told. Still the general public is be denyed the truth of what is happening in Canada.

Aug. 31, 2006 Native News Reports:

One day after we heard that there were intentions to finish some of the unfinished homes on the reclamation site in Caledonia, trouble has found its way back to the disputed territory. A fire was set in one of the homes, allegedly by someone who was staying in the home, after they were asked to leave so that the house could be worked on. The person that was staying there said that they had been staying there from the start and that it was their home. They also said that they would set it on fire if they were forced to leave.

Three people from the site had to be treated for smoke inhalation after they attempted to put the blaze out themselves. Minimal damage was done to the building and the person that is alleged to have set the blaze fled the scene.

Police were not allowed on the property so it’s not known whether or not anyone was apprehended. Six Nations firefighters were allowed on the property to extinguish the fire.

FYI Hawkins-
Paris Ontario is located directly on the Grand River and as such is well within the 6 mile limit claimed by the indians.
Additionally, the Stewart homestead is located near Brantford and is also in the disputed area.
Nope, no conflict here.
Move along folks....

I still don't see a conflict of interest. If you and your family claimed all of Ontario, I call bullshit if you say no judge with any property in Ontario can rule on your case and everyone else in Ontario is biased against you. Likewise I call bullshit on Indians claiming a conflict of interest on either Judge Marshall or Jane "Boondoogle" Stewart.

Indians have claimed more than 100% of British Columbia, using Indian logic then no landowning judge in B.C. should be allowed to rule on their claims and every landowner in B.C. is in a conflict. Obviously everyone has a conflict with megalomaniacs.

Complain about Stewart and Peterson as Liberal bagmen but don't fall for the Indian red herring of "conflict of interest".

Enough with the touchy-feely crap. (Dalton McWhimpy & Co.) During any armed standoff eventually comes the time to send in the Marines.

Indian Affairs, both federally and provincially administrated is nothing more than a steaming pile taxpayer funded, left-lib, make-work sewage.

Let's call these government teat sucking bandits out into the street for a good old fashioned game of cowboys and indians.

At the least, how about a few hours worth of flash bangs and tear gas launched over top of the tire fires? Any return fire, a 30 second warning to assume the "face down position" or we send in the tanks. Enough already.

this must be near a record for the natives trashing something. usually it takes a couple of months before they turn a house to an appalachian mansion.

CBCpravda still hasnt picked up the story.

Lets give them "blankets" to keep them warm sot hey don't have to burn down someone's home... lol.

...that swooshing sound you hear is Caledonia and eventually Canada going down the toilet...

I don't understand how it is possible that Canada can still have open land disputes with a tribe. Was this business not resolved a century or so ago?

the latest from and courtesy of...

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.html
Jane Stewart tells Residents Natives have NO Legal Claim
Aug 31, 2006
Jane Stewart, the person making $1300 per day, is going from house to house on Braemar Ave & Thistlemoor in Caledonia.
She is meeting with residents and telling them the following:

1) The Natives do not have any Legal Claim to this Land.

2) What do you think if the Government was to build a Lacross Field and Information Booth on the DCE land?

So why do we have any negotiations going on when both the Federal and Provincial Governments are now telling people the Native Land Claim is not legal?

Why is McGuinty still allowing them to occupy the land and to take over homes that are not theirs?

Why are taxpayers continuing to pay a million per day for all the expenses?

The Answer is simply because the Natives don't Care who is right - they want the land.

ENOUGH! This vast land has been bought and rebought and maintained and taxes have been paid on the same lands over and over. The deeds have been given to the rightful owners of the lands, the Indians can go on claiming ownership, it doesn't make it so.
The "White Man" forged this Country through many hardships without which there would be no Canada for the Indians to endlessly suckle. To be brutally frank they can go to bloody hell. It's time they all grow up and take more responsibility, regain lost credibility for their heritage.

But this all looks so good on Liberal Ontario. I am tempted to send Premier McWimpy a thank you note!

Europe we are begging you please take back your peeons pleeeeeeease!!!!! What about the middle east want some peons huh? Wha dya say huh? Anybody? Europeons? We got Europeons free to a good home don't let them out of their cage though as they have the tendancy to turn parasitic and suck the host dry oh yeah they also multiply like hell. Europeons! Europeons! Come and get em Mr.Blair, Charles, Anyone PLEEEEASSSE!!!!!

It might not be a bad idea to give land to the Indians. Then they can open a garbage dump to solve Ontario's waste disposal problem at great profit to Indians and substantial saving to taxpayers. Certainly McWimpy lacks the spine to stand up to NIMBYs and approve disposal sites.

More info? Some of the posters on this blog actually live by the site, and there are natives posting here too.
Not always playing nice either, check out the flamers board. LOL!

Caledonia is a disgrace.
Not to the people of Caledonia but to the government of Ontario.
The judge orders, the government ignores.
The OPP ignore ALL criminality of the natives and IMMEDIATELY pounce on law abiding citizens of Caledonia.
What an OUTRAGE!
Take note fellow citizens: The liberals from provinical to federal politics and for time immemorial are pantywaisted cowards who deserve nothing more than to be relegated to the trashheaps of history. Certainly before WE are by the Islamofacist jihadists.
We see before us a perfect example of what NOT to do. Do NOT appease. Give them an inch and they take a mile and our entire country along with it if we continue to put up with this crime against our fellow citizens in Caledonia.
Dalton McGuinty should be ashamed to show his face.
Jane Stewart should be ashamed to take $1300 bucks a day from the taxpayer to state the OBVIOUS.
The OPP or the RCMP.. I don't give a damn. SOMEBODY uphold the damn law and remove these miscreants OFF the land that does not belong to them. RESTORE peace and order to the beleagured town of Caledonia.
EVERY official who has stood by and watched this happen and done nothing to protect the citizens of Caledonia while standing by and watching the criminals holding the DCE destroy any semblance of law and order. Burn bridges, haul down hydro towers, all manner of lawlessness, yet when four ladies take their chairs onto the DCE and drink coffee THEY are arrested????!!!!
A pox on the OPP and the liberal government of Ontario.
I hope the voters REMEMBER this at voting time. BETTER yet, they should move to have him recalled and thrown from office for allowing this and disobeying a judges order!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Last rally a gal got arrested for taking down a flag I hear. The other side was hosing the damn crowd and the police didn't do a damn thing.
Castrated OPP by the LIEberals. YES remember at voting time.

The HRDC money had already been shovelled into Quebec by the time Jane Stewart was placed in charge of it. This is her payoff for taking the heat while keeping her mouth shut. (Compliments of Dalton McSwimpy and his liberal bootlickers).

Oh NICE.
Now they are starting fires in the houses because they are fighting with themselves?
Person one: Need ya to move so we can finish construction on the house.
Person two: I was here first...get lost.
Person one: Need ya to move
Person two: If I can't have it, and ya make me move out of MY HOME I will burn it!

He did, too.

No small wonder it is all such a mess. Nobody in charge within either, no rules nobody in charge.

Sadly, even the Toronto Sun doesn't cover this travesty as well as it could. The editors really don't like McGoofy but even the editorial page - which should be all over this - is strangely quiet. I would like to think that this issue would be a turning point in the next Ontario election but I just don't see it. At least, not yet anyway.

Jane Stewart - off with her head.

Bob Nixon - ahh, didn't he sire a piece of work.

Dalton - only in Ontario.

Injuns - whack 'em.

Dildo McGuinty made promises to get elected then turned around and broke them, that's called lying, getting elected under false pretenses. If the people of Ontario even have to consider voting for him again, their a brain dead lot.

McGuinty and company were so vocal against Harris in the Ipperwash affair, they've left themselves hogtied and speechless .

This is a civilized Country, we have laws. The Provincial and Federal governments have to work in tandem on the Caledonia stand-off.
Time to read the riot act, call in an Army unit and end this outrageous thuggery, to do anything less will only encourage more of the same. Indians have nothing better to do than demand more money and claim land from the Country it suckles from.
One day, one great leader will come along and boot their asses off reserves and into the mainstream where they can sink or swim like all other people of this Nation. No excuses.

Ontario - you voted for all these Liberanos. All actions have consequences - it is Ontario's baby.

I think the people of Haldimand, should be saying "enough is enough" and stand together and say "we are not paying anymore taxes period!" Do you not think action would be taken then? Let them try to collect.

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