Dead Castro Dance

Leave it to a conservative to take joy in the thought of another human beings death.

Perhaps we should change that to:

"Leave it to a conservative to take joy in the thought of the death of an evil, narcisistic brutal dicatator"...Yep, that works for me...

Leave it to a progressive to support someone who, enslaved, bayonetted, machine gunned, tortured, raped, and imprisoned his own countrymen because he holds similar political views.

Hey saskprog,
I'm sure you have been visiting the lefty blogs and wagging your fingers at the "peaceful progressives" calling for W's demise. Right?

Saskprog put as much thought into that comment as his handle.

To answer some anticpated retorts first, yes, I would protest something like this on a left-wing blog. And I wouldn't go back.

This is wrong. It's morally repugnant.

The irony of course being that most of you have the mindset that craves authoritarian-style leadership. If you people had been born and raised in Cuba you'd likely be staunch supporters of Dear Leader Castro, and probably also dependably anti-U.S. (because you see everything as team "us" versus team "them").

Anyway, please carry on with your evil thoughts, you callous monsters.

Lighten up, it's funny. And I'm no righty.

This was probably funny also. There's no right or wrong when it comes to taste.

Sigh.....

Guess some people think along the lines any friend of Trudeau is a friend of mine.
What about the nukes he had parked on his island? Yeah I know they where only aimed at America.

Communist,dictator,gone ....... good.

It's great, isn't it? There's the joy of seeing this brutal thug die, and the added delight of listening to the lefties whine.
And they do it so well. I mean, "callous monsters" - ouch, that really hurt. It was like getting slapped lightly by a lacy, white glove.
And "morally repugnant" - I used to think someone saying things like this was naive, but probably a nice person. Now I realize it's just an excuse for some toffee nosed prig to try and seize the hypocritical moral high ground. Does anyone believe they mean this?
Let's hope Ahmadinejad doesn't die soon, their hand wringing and crying will go on for days.

Is there anyone on the left that's actually capable of calling Castro a genuine son of a bitch, and saying straight out that the people of Cuba will be better off after he's sleeping under six feet of dirt?

Or is that a rhetorical question?

It has nothing to do with what you think of Trudeau (no hero of mine in any case). It doesn't depend on what you think of US actions or policies or Castro's actions or policies or even whether the think the world is better or worse off without him. The objection is that this kind of rejoicing in/ridiculing someone's suffering and death is wrong.

"And "morally repugnant" - I used to think someone saying things like this was naive, but probably a nice person. Now I realize it's just an excuse for some toffee nosed prig to try and seize the hypocritical moral high ground. Does anyone believe they mean this?"

Well, whether you believe it or not, I do mean it.

any friend of Trudeau is a commie scumbag.

The objection is that this kind of rejoicing in/ridiculing someone's suffering and death is wrong.

Castro, an absolute dictator of 50 years, gets the luxury of advanced old age, dying of natural causes and in his own bed, something that he denied tens of thousands and this amoral twit is indignant that decent people cheer his passing.

How many Cubans drowned on their way to Miami the past 50 years? How many are in Castro's political prisons or perished there? How many fragmented Cuban families in Miami were unable to comfort their dying old folks stranded back in the homeland? Where was your indignation for them, you phoney?

Leftist said: "It has nothing to do with what you think of Trudeau (no hero of mine in any case). It doesn't depend on what you think of US actions or policies or Castro's actions or policies or even whether the think the world is better or worse off without him. The objection is that this kind of rejoicing in/ridiculing someone's suffering and death is wrong."

Spoken like someone who would have mourned the deaths of Gengis Kahn, Mousillini, Napoleon, Pol Pot and the fhuer himself... Evil either dead or dying is not to be mourned Leftist. It's to be celebrated. One has to question your perceptions or, if you will, loyalties if you see it otherwise...

leftist .... nevermind, I cannot even be bothered to respond. I wake up everyday and I see the world as sh*t happens. I of course do not get all my info from the MSM. Wake up man.

castro was an "honorary" pall bearer at trudeau's funeral. ya don't get much cozier than that in my family.

Leftist,
I've met too many on the left to be persuaded by your argument about it being morally repugnant. They lie, dissemble, and hedge. If you mean what you say on principle then I can respect it even if I may or may not agree with the premise outside the ideological divide.

I am just very tired of trite name-calling and guilt by association from the left without apologies and disassociatation from the left regarding their support for history's biggest thugs. Even now, the Castro supporters are coming out the woodwork denouncing us who wish him simply gone instead of wishing him gone instead.

If he simply left, apologized for his atrocities, and allowed free and fair elections, I would reconsider my more base emotions toward him.

It won't happen. He won't leave and most on the left won't disabuse themselves of his ideology.

Sorry, but the Hollywood Lefties have brainwashed me:

http://tinyurl.com/4bowb

Why do I have the urge to vomit on such displays of neo-con mental mastubatory joy?

"Why do I have the urge to vomit on such displays of neo-con mental mastubatory joy?"

Because you fall in the category of a left wing moonbat, simple really.

agitfact,
Have you similarly vomitted at the atrocities committed by Castro for forcing people to face sharks, starvation, dehydration, etc. in the open waters while escaping his Gestapo?

Well, after Castro is dead and gone....hopefully someone in CUBA will wake up and try to improve relations with the USA. Maybe then the Cubans would get to have a life of their own in Cuba....istead of risking it on a raft headed to Florida.

That being said...I don't care if Castro suffers as much agony personally, as he's inflicted on the Cuban people. As long as he dies.

And to the lefties who try to defend Castro's humanity.......your argument would also apply to Osama Bin Laden, or Nasrallah. They're just as human as Castro. What the Lefties don't understand though....is that some humans are just evil and need to be taken out.

(Here's a hint lefties......if the people you listen to and admire have a history of killing millions....i'ts a good hint you are probably supporting the wrong team)

Left wing idols:
Mao
Pol Pot
Stalin
Marx
Castro
Lenin....

Get the picture moonbats?

agitfact said:

Why do I have the urge to vomit on such displays of neo-con mental mastubatory joy?

I dunno, weak stomach? :P

I guess this is kind of like Harper having his blackberry way with a planeload of partisans... who will weep, who will gnash their teeth when that dictator takes a planeload down?
Carry on, Small Dead Animal, like only you can.

Multirec,

actually, the answer occurred to me shortly after my post: it is because I am Canadian and hope to be able to stay that way a little longer.

h2o273kk9,

I suspect that you don't know what you are talking about, but that has never stopped a neo-con from regurgitating propaganda. Nevertheless, I would invite your kind attention to something I posted on Kate's "Best News of the Year" thread of 31 July in a comment at 06.48 PM on 2 August.

agitfact,

"Why do I have the urge to vomit on such displays of neo-con mental mastubatory joy?"

I don't know what you are talking about. Define neo-con. Define what you would think is the proper response. What do you think about about a "socialist" dying with $550,000,000 in the bank ... when he started Cuba with $0. The average yearly wage in Cuba now being $1500.

Please explain ... I'm willing to listen.

Agitfact:

See excerpt of article below; these are the kind of people Castro implicitly supported. And you generally seem to be a reasonable enough person; I just don't get the "mourn for Castro, after all, he's a human being" bit. He was a freakin' monsterous dictator who deserves nothing but contempt.

"Mother and son, 13, die for delivering laundry
By Tim Albone

Accused by the Taleban of spying, they were killed to deter locals from mixing with Nato forces


SHOT and hanged from the branch of a fruit tree, the mother and her teenage son were summarily tried, sentenced and executed for no bigger a crime than delivering clean laundry to a relative.
The fate of the 45-year-old woman and her 13-year-old son on Monday shocked even war-hardened locals in southern Afghanistan, where people are killed daily in the raging battle between the Taleban and the Nato-backed Government.

“These two people had been to visit a relative in the town of Musa Qala to deliver some clean laundry. He was working as a policeman. When they returned home the Taleban accused them of being spies and hanged them from a mulberry tree,” Amir Muhammad Akhunzada, the deputy governor of Helmand, told The Times.

He said that after the murder villagers in Daigh, five miles (8km) north of Musa Qala, were warned that they would share the same fate if they collaborated with the enemy.

In this case the enemy are the Afghan government forces and the British Army supporting them, who have been locked in clashes this summer that have killed four British soldiers and scores of Taleban militants.

Civilians have been caught up in the violence, with the Taleban killing teachers and local officials and threatening anyone who does not feed or provide shelter to their fighters. No one challenging their authority is spared — even the young. “How could this boy be a spy. He was only 13?” General Muhammed Nabi Molakhel, the chief of police in Helmand, asked.

Yesterday the Taleban remained unrepentant. They insisted that the victim was 21 and repeated their warning to collaborators. Mullah Amanullah, an aide to the Taleban commander Mullah Dadullah, told The Times that the British were using women and young children or people who pretended to be mad to spy on them.

“There will be more killings like this. These people had cameras and GPS [global positioning system],” he said via a satellite phone from an undisclosed location. No one will regard his words as an idle threat. When in power, the Taleban enforced strict Islamic law, with punishments including public executions for those convicted of crimes such as adultery and homosexuality, and amputations for thieves..."

[...]

this is why I support our soldiers involvement and presence in afghanistan.

as I have stated here and dozens of other web sites, Canada has NEVER lost a war because we are ALWAYS involved for the right reasons; this is no different.

the taliban are capable of these grisly cold blooded, serial-killer-like murders.

imagine what is going thru the quinessential evil minds to commit such deeds.

THAT is what we are dealing with and better to deal with it from a distance than wait for it to show up at our doorstep.

did anyone watch fahrenheit 9/11 by mr moore showing the coordial welcome extended the taliban by the BUSHIST regime prior to september 2001 ???

apparently they were an a-ok bunch back then.....

testing new mozilla here .....

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD.

In reality there is no such thing as a neo-con/right-wing party in Canada. What you have is a middle-of-the-road party(Conservative), a socialist party(Liberal) and a communist party(NDP). You pieces of work don't have a clue what a right-wing party is.

But I digress. Castro was another Communist monster who's stewardship caused untold suffering to his people and brought the world the closest it has ever been to nuclear destruction.

If he is indeed dead the world is a better place without him........

Missing Link

Let us hope!!!

agitfact,
I looked for the post but couldn't find it so I cannot comment on that part of your post.

However, I must ask, what is it you suspect that I don't understand? I asked a simple question of you? Have you vomitted because of Castro's victims?

What progoganda? Do you not remember Elian Gonzales. Found barely alive in open water. His mother already dead...while escaping Cuba. Why couldn't Castro just open the gates and let those who wish to leave actually depart peacefully?

The only other alternative explanation is they could leave freely but were so impoverished by his policies that they couldn't afford plane tickets.

Propoganda?

Bruce,

I am not mourning Castro - I mourn the lack of civility (if not downright civilization) in discussions of right/left wing issues, and the war-like hyperbole. I know that makes me a left-wing moonbat, but I'll happily live with that designation as the cost of being human at this time.

I do not see the connection between Castro and Taliban. I also suspend judgement in cases of information that tars one side, especially if that information comes from the other side. Remember the "patriotic gore" in the Civil War, German "frightfullness" in WWI, the Kuwaiti Ambassador's daughter and the incubator babies in Iraq I etc., etc.? And the blogosphere worries about enhanced or staged photos, as if those had not always been with us (cf. raising the flag on Iwo Jima, the dome of St. Paul's after German bombing, raising the flag on the Reichstag, etc., etc.) Remember "cui bono?"

h2o273kk9,

the 2 Aug post was two paragraphs from an article in the US Army War College Quarterly linked by Gray. The link is www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/parameters/01winter/peters.htm.

Although the article is an entire strategic tour d'horizon in a professional military journal, you can skip down to the "Cuba" para heading for a reality check. Cheers.

h2o273kk9,

forgot to mention Elian. Yes, I remember the propaganda made with and of him in Florida, and also the propaganda now made with him in Cuba. I do not know why his mother risked the boat trip, and neither does anyone else. Is there any evidence that she was persecuted? Did she leave for personal reasons, such as wishing to start a new life in the States with the boyfriend who came along? We do not know, so we should not crow about it.

Holy Crap!!

Harper.
With a Blackberry.
On a plane -

And the rest of the story unfolds, according to whose eywitness testimony? (or shouldn't that more properly be labelled as "Anti-Harper/anti conservative" spin?) During this last election, how many stories were reportedly filed by Lib-oriented reporters, using their own Blackeberries while airborne? What about airline safety then? Or on Flight 93?

C'mon you gliberal grab-it-alls. Get a grip. Has anyone heard of any airline pilot confirming this garbage? But the B.S. still gets passed along, doesn't it?

Stooping to these low levels, of what today passes for political discourse, clearly shows the bankruptcy of the liberal/supposedly-progressive braintrust. You're all toast, and you're going to stay dead and irrelevant for a very bluddy long time -- and I just love being a witness to your deserved torment and incredulity over this.

I hope Castro suffers for what he has done in Cuba as well as Africa and the rest of Latin America. I hope he dies in unimaginable pain. He is guilty of causing the deliberate suffering of several nations of many millions of people. There is no punishment harsh enough to do justice to his victims.

If that makes lefties sick I suppose I'll consider it a bonus. Lefties have been making me sick all my life.

Dear The Missing Link,

You certainly appear to be missing something when you say "In reality there is no such thing as a neo-con/right-wing party in Canada."

I have to ask which reality you are talking about? Not to mention that you use "neo-con/right-wing" as if to indicate the two are interchangable.

"What you have is a middle-of-the-road party(Conservative)"
Incorrect. The Conservative Party of Canada is the most right-wing of the present major Canadian federal parties. It's not on the extreme right, but you cannot accurately call it middle of the road when it consistently takes a stance to the right of the other three major parties. Furthermore, if you will admit that neo-conservatives exist in the States, notably several members of Bush's entourage, then I think it would be difficult for you to argue that they do not exist in Canadian politics also. When you analyse the wording which Bush and Harper use in their speeches and observe that they are so similar they could have been written by the same speechwriter it is difficult to draw a distinction between the two philosophies. I might accept that there is not a neo-con party in Canada, per se, but there are certainly neo-con elements in both the Conservative and Liberal parties.

"a socialist party(Liberal)"
They may occasionally have vaguely more socialist leanings than the Conservatives, but the Liberals aren't really any more socialist than suits them to get elected. You talk of the Conservatives being middle of the road, and although they have demonstrated a modicum of this in the past few months (hence why they are in power - just - at the moment) the Liberals retained power for so long and will, most likely, regain it in the near future because above and beyond anything else they recognise the power of being "middle of the road" borrowing policies from left and right and wherever, whenever. It's politics by populism, but it tends to get you elected.

"and a communist party(NDP)."
Ok, this is where you really lose the plot. You state that 'You pieces of work don't have a clue what a right-wing party is.' which I dispute, if you are going to include me in the rather open-ended category "you pieces of work" - I'm assuming you're referring to anyone who doesn't believe what you do. I would retort that apparently you do not know what a communist party is. I'm not going to get into the details of what consistutes a communist party, but unequivocally, the NDP would not make a good example. Suffice to say that communist parties normally name themselves as such and put forward a manifesto based on the principals of communism, which does not fit with the reality of the NDP. They are a socialist party, certainly, which normally supports social programs before corporate concerns, but to suggest that this somehow renders them "communist" is gross exaggeration to the point of nonsense; a false projection equally as ridiculous as claiming that the Bloc Quebeqois is a militant extremist faction.

The odd thing is that what you accuse Castro of doing is precisely the kind of thing you say should be done not just to Castro but to all kinds of people whose politics you despise.

So it's really not his (alleged) actions you disapprove. It's who his (alleged) victims were that you disapprove. If he'd done these things to socialists, for example - you'd think that was a good thing, right?

"(Here's a hint lefties......if the people you listen to and admire have a history of killing millions....i'ts a good hint you are probably supporting the wrong team)

Left wing idols:
Mao
Pol Pot
Stalin
Marx
Castro
Lenin...."

supported by the right:
Kissinger
Nixon
Bush I
Bush II
Churchill
Disreali
too many Latin American dictators to list
I could go on and on ....

Ah, Leftist,

Not that everyone on the right's list would be on my personal list but I'd take it over yours any day.

Kissinger: Fought the cold war against the communist system that killed over 100 million people. He may have had his bad days but given who he was fighting...

Nixon: ended the war (Vietnam) started by JFK&LBJ (both Democrats) and even though he left disgraced, he isn't a Mao or Stalin.

Bush I: Led a UN authorized force and expelled Saddam from Kuwait. Thought you lefties loved the UN and its multilateralism. How many nations you need on board before you give your blessing?

Bush II: Fighting Islamofascism (contentiously as he may be doing it.) He isn't on my fan list but he isn't a genocidal maniac like Pol Pot either.

Churchill: you list Churchill? Are you mad? Who the hell wouldn't be a fan of Churchill?

Disreali: ? you mean Disraeli, the Brit PM from 1874? Are you gonna add Vlad the Impaler, too? Dig a little farther back then.

too many Latin American dictators to list: Hello, cold war? Your side (i.e. the commies) made it necessary for my side (the right) to support the "anyone but a commie" candidate for dictator. This in turn coined the "he may be a sonovabitch but he's our sonovabitch" line. It means the right picked the lesser of two evils here and there while making the decisions that kept us free. That doesn't make us fans of these thugs, it was designed to prevent worse options - the perfect option having been previously booked at the time... Your side backed all the Latin Am. dictators that the right didn't - and for way worse reasons.

I'll come back and reply later, if I have time. (I tend to spend way too much time reading political news sites and blogs.) Right now I just want to say that I appreciate the civil reply :-)

Leftist, when you said you'd be back later, I figured you needed some time to google sources to reply to Warwick. (If you didn't have the facts, it'd probably have been better not to show your ignorance in the first place.)

You're still not back. 'Guess your research is going badly, e.g., supporting Warwick's claims.

Thanks, Warwick. I hope that Leftist realizes that not everything is black and white.

The irony of your handle“adelicatebalance’. Is not lost on me…..
I believe neo-con to be a false god if you will created by socialists to justify there rather right wing polices. In Canada you basically have a total inversion of what constitutes a right wing group. Typically right wing groups sponsor often narrow and myopic policy to advance their ideology and bludgeon opposing views (NDP are a good example). Typically these goals include enriching themselves and friends, holding on to power at any cost (Liberals are a good example), more control of the daily lives and actions of the people, the removal of means to question the government, the control/regulation/ownership of state industry and banks, big unions, etc. The Canadian socialists have embraced these lessons of the right wing well and have consistently applied them to there party policy.

So I stand corrected, your right we do have right-wing parties in Canada,

I will clarify ‘pieces of work for you” It is unlikely that anyone here has truly lived under a right wing (using your definition) government. Unless of course, you were German/Italian/Japanese during WWII or from Middle East.

In any event I did say I digress and will attempt to stay on the posted topice in the future.