Be It Resolved

No babies dropped on their head, no whack job organization called the NDP. Simple as that.

The 'New Democratic Party' is nothing more than the Liberal Party by another name! (Can I watch while you run them over the Buffalo Jump?)

Certainly does reveal a lot about the (lack of) intelligence over in the leftosphere.

As a matter of practical politics, isn't it better for the moderate mainstream and conservatives that the collectivist left be split into two parties, thereby diluting their strength?

I can see it now.....Smirkin Jack and Comrade Chow leading a convoy of VW vans off of lovers leap.

Syncro

Wow. Clearly the idiots who belong at rabble.ca have found a political home. The Cuban "Socialist Project?" What a great euphemism for murderous dictatorship!

I think the NDP will pick up votes on foreign policy and the Conservatives will lose votes. Iggy appears to be every bit the warmonger Harper is; accordingly, peace-loving Canadians who think the "war" on "terror" is F.O.S. and whose vote is significantly influenced by foreign policy may turn to the Bloc, Greens, and NDP, and not in small numbers.

Remember, only 57% of *Conservatives* supported the Afghanistan mission when the last major poll was done, and that was before Canadian soldiers started getting killed regularly. Only 29% of Americans think Bush is doing a good job, let alone Canadians. And only 32% of Canadians agreed with Harper's "measured response" assessment of the invasion of Lebanon. So it is hardly radical even among Conservatives to suggest the Afghanistan mission should be wound up, or that Harper not follow Bush, Blair, and Olmert's foreign policy mistakes.

If someone can convince me how Harper will win on a pro-war/pro-Bush platform, I'm all ears. In the meantime, the clear MAJORITY of Canadians who are broadly anti-Bush/anti-fake war on "terror"/anti-torture/pro-morality (I proudly and enthusiastically count myself among them) will seek parties who offer non-apocalytpic foreign policy options that appeal to us, the MAJORITY of Canadians.

Interesting. But is it really practical, dave?

Essentially, the left might be confining its extremists to one party, the NDP. That purges the main leftist party, the Liberals, of direct association with them. However, in actual political fact, the two parties operate together. We saw that when Martin was in power.

Then, there's the problem of the third socialist party, the Bloc. How can one province have its own party, unavailable elsewhere, yet purporting to speak and act as a federal party? The two other federal parties in the province, the Liberals and Conservatives, will always be secondary. A Quebecer will vote for the Bloc, not for its sovereignty agenda, which doesn't exist except to use in threats and extortion. No, they'll vote for the Bloc because it is a uniquely and only Quebec party. It's actually very safe to vote for the Bloc. You get federal representation without 'association' with the ROC.

But, what, then, are the Liberals? The NDP seem to be taking most of the rhetoric of the Left as 'their property'. Anti-Americanism has been a key ideology of the Liberals for decades.

And the NDP are moving more and more into isolationism. That, and anti-Americanism, will appeal to Quebecers. Are the NDP worried about the Green Party in Quebec? That's a real threat in my view. The Green Party is utopian socialist, and so is Quebec.

Notice that the NDP say, at least above, nothing positive about anything. And no platform about Canada. Just an increasing isolationism and hostility. And, all impractical suggestions.

I'd say, let them talk the utopian rhetoric. The CPC won by rejecting utopianism, which is empty fictionalizing, and talking only about practical, do-able, down-to-earth policies.

Bob,

Churchill was branded as a warmonger by the leftards of his time. I guess you're this generation's leftard halfwit.

The left was wrong then, wrong now. As a matter of fact, the left has never been on the right side of history.

Where's the link?

Is this just supposed to be a little graphic, or is there a link attached to this, er...statement?

Be It Resolved:

That NDP/CAW coerce Canadians to help rebuild the Big Easy; to restore its former gory; Bourbon Street be renamed Jack Layton Blvd.; Cajun be now called Chow.

Moved by: Buzz CAW.
2nded: Svend. ...-

Canadians must continue to help rebuild New Orleans, CAW's ...
Calgary Sun - 1 hour ago
TORONTO (CP) - The president of the Canadian Auto Workers union says the city of New Orleans needs Canada's help to return to its former glory. ...-
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Warwick, actually, the Left was correct about the Triangle Factory Fire (i.e., "it was bad"), then it was all downhill from there...

click the asterisk.

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Got it. Thanks.

I think I was better off in my ignorant bliss...

Warwick says: "The left has never been on the right side of history."

Unless you count the Spanish Civil War, the Paris Commune, equal rights for minorities and women, decent labour conditions, freeing of the slaves?

Or maybe it was just a pun?

ET,

The CPC won because of the foibles of the LPC.

Your suggestion that they won because of rejecting utopiaism is the empty fictionalizing.

Victory by default, no more no less.

I looked at Steven Taylors site and I never found that part. It's the only one that makes sense.

If the NDP don't actually lose support after the next election in light of the excreta that they birth (in the guise of foreign policy )i will truly be at a loss for words..

david brown, sorry, but I disagree completely with you. The CPC won on its own merits. They won, not merely by rejecting utopianism, which is a tactic, not a policy, but by rejecting the tactics of utopianism and inserting policies based on actual realities. The Liberals/NDP use only the tactic of utopianism. They have no policies.

craig, those historical events are not the property of the 'left' but of reason. Both sides have 'reasonable individuals' in their midst.

Craig..the right side of history, the Spanish civil war? The Paris commune?

Last time i checked,the international brigade were communist sympathisers and were fighting for communist rule in Spain(and elsewhere),that they were ant-fascist is only a by-product of their fellow traveller stance..

David b...so you then agree that default Liberal victory for all those years was because of the failure of the right to unite? After they did,and Canadians had a choice,it seems to me that they came close once and won the next time out.Perhaps after a third time (and a majority.) you will be convinced?

I think I'd retract my 4:09 PM remark above.

After reading Stephen Taylors presentation and analysis of this proposed NDP party policy, I'm aghast. There's a WHOLE party of people that need to be on psychiatric medications and given intensive cult deprogramming therapy...

It's gonna be fun to see how many of these are adopted at the convention. Personally, I hope all of them are.
Cripes, talk about digging your own grave!

On second thought, maybe not so stupid after all.

Woo the moderate Greens with the anti-Nafta stuff and the leftie Libs with the anti-American diatribe and maybe be able to form a coalition that could be a spoiler for a majority in the next election.

The fact that all the above-mentioned are nuts is no reason to think that they can't pull it off.

Jeez, and to think I may be spending the last years of my life in a country that resembles Venezuela.

1) Bob...I know the NDP and Liberals are desperately trying to expedite GWB's Canadian citizenship but I just dont think he'll be on the ballot. They tried last time and it doesnt work.

2) Win by default....gosh I wish it was that easy. Governments do defeat themselves but only when there is an opposition that that Canadians have some faith in. By that measure it is More CPC government no matter who the Libs elect.....please let it be Kenndy or Ignatieff or Rae....none of them will be able to untite that party, Kennedy maybe but total wet behind the ears who really isnt that deep....

3) NDP Liberal marriage coming within 2 elections.....but it could take three if they keep talking the comrade stuff. Come on guys stick to the anti american, anti israeli pro revolutionary stuff for your common ground and you can get it doen in 1....

Kursk,

Just to add, the Republicans freed the slaves in the States, while the Copperhead Democrats just wanted the South to leave the Union and to hell with the slaves.

Those Dems, they're nothing if not consistent.

Orwell's Homage To Catalonia contains a lot of detail about the two main commie groups in the Spanish Civil War, and how they ended up fighting each other. As a reader, I cheered on both sides and wished them ultimate success in their goal to annihilate each other.

"WHEREAS the corporate agenda is a serious threat to social programmes; the environment, human and labour rights, and the goals of democratic socialism,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the New Democratic Party undertake to explore the means to effect the abrogation and withdrawal of Canada from NAFTA, FTA, GATS, and the WTO..."

-- Toronto-Danforth NDP

Reading this, I was asking myself WHO THE H*LL IS THIS PERSON?, when I realized it is none other than Jack(ass) Layton himself.

One few questions, Jacky: Who's going to generate jobs and wealth in Canada in order to pay for all of these "social programmes? Who's going to employ all the labourers who are entitled to all of these "labour rights"? And who's going to pay for the environmental programs to make Canada greener?

Jack, you know where you can put your "democratic socialism" whose motto seems to be "Give me, give me, give me and, then, to Hell with YOU."

NO THANKS. Won't you and your party just step this way, please?

According to these people, as they propose to be included as official NDP policy, the invasion of Iraq constitutes a "supreme war crime" akin to those investigated by the Nuremberg Tribunal.

Not just 'these people.'

Also this person: Benjamin Ferencz, one of the Nuremburg prosecutors, a man responsible for convicting more than 20 Nazis of war crimes.

"If someone can convince me how Harper will win on a pro-war/pro-Bush platform, I'm all ears." Bob

I wouldn't try to convince anyone who thinks like you of anything Bob, but here's how it works. In an election campaign people take time from their daily routines to focus on the issues. When they do, they make up their own minds based on the arguments they hear. In these circumstances the impact of the left-wing- controlled MSM begins to wane.

Good people who want for Iraqis (and Afstans) what they themselves enjoy will change their minds and realize that real peace is sometimes not possible without war. When they are reminded of the history of Iraq under Saddam (and Afstan under the Taliban) and the facts of these missions- that they are saving lives even as these wars of liberation are being fought, then they will support the missions.

Of course facts won't get in the way of ideologues who claim to be "pro morality" while condemning the long overdue removal of a murdering, genocidal, terrorist supporting, stalinist thug who eliminated at least 600,000 of his citizens during his 24 years in power (and who just happened to be in default of a ceasefire resolution and therefore left himself wide open to justifiable removal).

Such people as you, Bob, while crowing about your moral superiority, would condemn Iraqis (and Afstans)to whatever fate might befall them under his rule rather than acknowledge the inarguable merits of their liberation - unfortunately for you - by the initiative of a conservative regime.

There is nothing moral about your position. It is built on hysterical lies underpinned by a cowardly selfish pacificism. ( You condemn the killing of fanatical terrorist killers but, ironically, you are content to stand by and do nothing when the terrorists kill the innocent). Sorry Bob, but you can't wish this problem away.

If you can't support the heroic efforts of the liberators you should at least stop pretending that you, and your ilk, are their betters. You're not.

What you don't get is that so long as there are evil men willing to kill to prevent ordinary people from living as free men, good men must be willing to fight-and when they are, it is wise to support and encourage them. In such circumstances only a fool would denigrate their efforts.

It's not that the NDP is wrong here and there, it's that the NDP is ALWAYS wrong.

"The left freed the slaves"
Yes, they did!
They freed them from George Chimpy McBushhitler the first, and his neo-con army of Christian Fundamentalists.
It all happened collectively in every Che wearing dimbulbs utopian melon, just ask any of them.
Ahhhhh-ha ha ha haaaaa!
This is great stuff, more please!

The Che crowd wants us in dimmitude forthwith; but they freed the slaves, don't you know!

Olivia Chow (Trinity Spadina)has called for the closing of the Toronto Island airport.

Terry Gain - many thanks for your post.

Kate...Help!I am having no luck finding the link that states this item is a parody!

Seriously,as was mentioned(and as hard to believe as this is for many conservatives)these seem to reflect the ideals of a great many,possibly the majority of Canadians.As the left's power in this country is concentrated primarily in the major cities(where,coincidently,the vast majority of immigrants settle)and where the MSM is successful in maintaining a 'right is bad'mantra,the left is still the powerhouse in this country.Actually,I think the LPC has a good chance of regaining power when they elect a new leader.Which leader won't matter,Canadians will BELIEVE(baaaaa)what they have been fed for decades now...To not vote for the LPC is unCanadian.
For those who have taken time to sniff the air outside of the blogosphere,you will see what I have seen.The MSM is strongly on message that the Harper government is a failure and can hardly manage to do anything right....So,when the LPC again take power w/o even facing consequences for their repeated corrupt actions...

Will offended Quebecers accept Canadians reelecting this party which manipulated it's sovereignity aspirations to defraud taxpayers of millions?

Will Albertans(especially)accept the rest of Canada rejecting what ideals they hold dear and denying us what was at least a competent government?

I submit that this country may be on the verge of imploding from the vast divisions created,mainly by the self-rightious left,between provinces,regions,ethnicities,religions,rural/urban etc..Listen closely now,that faint noise you hear is the sound of tens of thousands of brave Canadian soldiers rolling in their graves.What a disgraceful path this country is wobbling down...f*ck it,I'm going out for a drink!

This is the sort of thing that happens to folks who smoke lots of dope.

No wonder the NDP logo includes a picture of a green weed... it's symbolic.

by the way, speaking of socialism, the Six Nation natives of Caledonia have taken over the unfinished houses left by the builder-developer and are insisting on assistance to finish the houses, which they will live in. They want supplies and clothing as well.

Back to the political parties. I'm puzzled. The left seems to be transforming into multiple parties. The Liberals, the NDP, and now the Green Party. And in Quebec, the Bloc. Why would a political ideology splinter into separate sections? That's puzzling.

The Bloc is, as I've said, an anamoly and really shouldn't be permitted as a federal party. It will always be the default party in Quebec, because it is only francophone, with no ties to any anglophone party. Voting Bloc doesn't mean sovereignty (that's the domain of the PQ); it means power in the House. The Bloc doesn't even need to have any policies, other than Quebec, Quebec, Quebec.
Yes, with Quebec guaranteed 75 seats,and set up with its own immutable political party - that's not good for the country.

The three left parties in the ROC, the Liberals, NDP and Green. Hmmm. What's going to happen? If they had any political 'savvy', they'd merge. But that won't happen, I think. The NDP are too firmly trapped in an adversarial 19th c blue collar ideology of Us versus Them, with them always being Big Business, Employers, Money, Production, the US. That's out of date.

I expect the Green Party to move into NDP territory, for it is also utopian, but more 'modern' in its rhetoric. I can see it moving into Quebec, along with the Bloc, and into cities.

The Liberals? Hmm. I wonder if they have the most to lose. They've gone without any policies for years and have survived by default and by pure rhetoric. There's a limit to such tactics.

I'm puzzled.

Terry - great post, realism as opposed to socialist nonsense.

Canadian Observer pointed out that "The MSM is strongly on message that the Harper government is a failure and can hardly manage to do anything right...."

Apropos of the truth of this, and lacking a "Readers' Tips" outlet, I have just heard a news (sic) item about Prime Minister Stephen Harper on CBC's The World at Six that has made me angrier than I think I have ever been. Because they can't find anything factually bad about PMSH, who's doing an amazing job travelling all over Canada and the world, they're now resorting to total fiction and hypothesis. Total jerks. Total hacks.

Here's my letter to the CBC Ombudsman, which will explain what I'm talking about:

Dear Mr. Carlin,

Nothing on the CBC has made me as angry as a "news" (sic) item I have just heard on The World at Six. A piece on how Prime Minister Harper's gruelling schedule, travelling all over Canada and the world, could be very hard on his health. Hypothetical problems he might have with high blood pressure because of "the stress of his job" were discussed at great length, with quotes from medical personnel acknowledging how stress can negatively affect a person's health. Not one fact was offered when it comes to the Prime Minister himself, just hypothetical suggestions about a hypothetical situation: His schedule could lead to stress, which could lead to high blood pressure.

Mr. Carlin, this is a TOTAL CROCK. I have NEVER heard a similar conjecture about the health of either PM Paul Martin nor PM Jean Chretien, both of whom were much older than Prime Minister Stephen Harper. The CBC's obvious motive here is to cast doubt on our Prime Minister's health, by making up a fiction about how the stress of his job could be deleterious to his health.

The Canadian public has no reason to believe that Prime Minister Stephen Harper isn't completely up to the stress and hard work of being a political leader--except that, now, the CBC has suggested that he might have high blood pressure because of the stresses inherent in his job.

Below is a copy of an e-mail I have just sent to The World at Six. I am also sending a c.c. of it and this e-mail to Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office and to my MP.

I look forward to hearing from you. This item tonight is a total fiction, has no basis in fact, and is unconscionable on the part of the CBC news (sic) team.

Sincerely,

been around the block

Strange......

The exact same 'high bloodpressre illness' described happened to me blood when I watched the CBC.

Why are you watching that bile in the first place?

Amazing, substitute doublespeak for thought and you get the usual leftist boilerplate. Leftists -- always wrong, never in doubt.

Don't be so cute, "Bob". You make it very clear that you fervently love and celebrate terror, war, and butchery, so long as the practitioners are of fashionable ethnicity and hate the USA. It gives you a li'l thrill to be so "edgy" and to imagine yourself aligned with such ideologically correct brutal force. That is why you support Hezbollah and the current Iraninan leadership, and hide behind the false pretense that you love "peace".

They may have come from vastly different political perspectives, but both Hitler and Orwell had your number, kiddo.

THis just in:

"SAN FRANCISCO -- As many as 14 people were injured this afternoon by a motorist who drove around San Francisco running them down before he was arrested, authorities said.

Seven of those injured were in critical condition, police and firefighters said."

And the name of this maniac, running over innocent people he doesn't even know:

"Authorities have identified the man who was arrested as Omeed Aziz Popal, who has addresses in Ceres (Stanislaus County) and Fremont.

Authorities said they believe Popal was the same driver who ran over and killed a 55-year-old man walking in a bicycle lane in Fremont, at Fremont Boulevard near Ferry Lane, just after noon..."

Hmmm...let's get the CBC on this, to perhaps determine some sort of motive...

I really think I am begining to understand the Left. It is not so much about ideology as it is about being lazy. As I read through there 'grass-roots' suggestions, I could not but help notice the underlying tone of avoidance at all costs mentallity. They don't want to do this, they don't want to do that, they are against big corporaations, there against big buisness, there against fighting for democracy, they seem to be against anything that requires any sort of sacrifice or effort.

Oh well, I guess they can just light-up another fatty and relax, plenty of time to complain when your on the dole.

Holy Mackinaw! I think instead of condemning we should go to their website and encourage them that they need to speak for us. I'm just about willing to put out full page ads for them.

Regular Joe's need to hear about these whack jobs.

Your never going to change the hardliners but just maybe catch some swing voters.

I gotta take a shower after that posting.

Hey, Kate, isn't that--being run off cliffs--what lemmings do? On reflection, I guess it was the Gadarine swine.

Oh well, same difference, same analogy. Go, NDP!

Problem is the Regular Joe's will never hear about this. I doubt very strongly that the MSM will print any of this rubbish.
All that was missing from these resolutions was
Be It Resolved that: der Schmutzige Juden....

" . . . freeing of the slaves"

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Senator (present-day) Robert Byrd, Democrat from West Virginia, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. But let's not have facts get in the way of lefties claiming the "right" side of history . . .

The N.D.P are out behind the House of Commons digging a hole. After a while they realize that they can't get out. So someone asks how are they going to get out. Jack Layton says,"I know we'll dig ourselves out!" So there they are all digging,when a Conservative walks by and says,"dig up stupid".

Kate said, "THAT the New Democratic Party Of Canada be driven off a cliff."

Excuse me madam, is YOUR solution to everything VIOLENCE? Isn't that kind of a caveman / cave lady approach to life? "Kill it! Nuke it! Drive it off a cliff!"

There is something VERY wrong with a world view that wants to kill anything that you don't agree with. It warrants professional assistance, perhaps??

Settle down, left dog. Sorry you can't see the humour.

We've got to be able to laugh at what the NDP are proposing, otherwise we might have to go out and shoot ourselves. Now THAT's violent.

NDP = Not a Damn Pinhead (Brain Amongst Them)

Leftdog, is that an act?