The saga of Deborah Frisch, longtime comment troll and all-around kook, took another troubling, but not exactly unforeseeable turn in the last 48 hours. As far as we know, she is now the first troll of the political blogosphere to face criminal charges relating to such activity. On August 21 she was arraigned in an Oregon courtroom on charges of stalking and telephone harassment.
[...]According to Don’t Hire Deb, a blog devoted to documenting Frisch’s outrageous behavior while depriving her own site of traffic, Frisch posted either $4,000 bail or $400 to a bondsman, and must reappear in court on September 25th. As is speculated in DHD comments and elsewhere, this likely stems not from Frisch’s well-publicized Jeff Goldstein-related misadventures (to the best of our knowledge she’s never called him) but rather similar interactions with former colleagues at University of Oregon (where she was denied tenure in 1994 and served as an adjunct until July 2001) including calling, emailing, and a quickly-removed post to her blog.
Lots more there, with generous linkage.
A cautionary tale for some of the disturbed individuals who smear through here from time to time.











This woman is hard-left and was working on the faculty of a university. While one shouldn't tar the vast hordes of lefties based on one individual she, like Bigshittyliberal, is one of their self-appointed spokesmen, a "social activist", a "progressive". Bear in mind that Robert McClelland leapt at the chance to defend and support her, his colleague. Let us take a trip down memory lane and re-visit her posts on the conservative "Protein Wisdom" blog...
"So if you could just tell me the AGE and SEX of your “tyke,” I’d be stoked!
Thanx!"
"Ooh. Two year old boy. Sounds hot. You live in Colorado, I see. Hope no one Jon-Benets your baby."
"Are you still married to the woman you humped to produce the toddler?"
"I reiterate: If some nutcase kidnapped your child tomorrow and did to her what was done to your fellow Coloradan, Jon-Benet Ramsey, I wouldn’t give a damn."
"Give your pathetic progeny (I sure hope that mofo got good genes from his mama!) a big fat tongue-filled kiss from me! LOTS AND LOTS OF SALIVA from Auntie MOONBAT, if you don’t mind!"
There's more than a whiff of sulphur in Deb Frisch's outpourings.
I'm glad that someone--being the judiciary--has finally taken this woman's rantings seriously. It is obvious that she is deeply disturbed and needs some kind of help, but despite her 'victimhood,' there's a nasty and malicious streak in her posts and one wonders where they might be going.
When you threaten people and sign suicide notes in the blogosphere with others' names, it's obvious that the mischief thereof is not innocent or naive.
The word "evil" comes to mind. If you're too 'enlightened' to believe there is such a thing, that's unfortunate. It just means that you're not armed against a powerful enemy (and I don't mean Deb Frisch, but the spirit she may be channelling)...
I hope that law enforcement is able to help this woman and, more important, I hope there is justice served for the victims of her malfeasance.
Deb Frisch needs a time out.
She's been Frisched.
Jeff at protein wisdom said (IIRC) that when he was finished with her, she'd be an Internet verb.
I'd say "Mission Accomplished."
Justice....to some extent!
The real question regarding someone who is stalking, obsessive, threatening and irrational is what potential is there for them to physically harm someone. So far, her threats have been veiled. She has been shrewd or in control enough to not cross a line where she can be placed on a mental health involuntary hold as a clear and present danger to others. But, can she stay in control?
You've got to ask yourself how this woman of long standing troubled behavior rode the academic circuit for so long. How much of her standing as a lesbian and leftist, so favored in certain departments, accorded her protection all of these years?
Bingo! Penny.
Oy vey.
Deb and Bob would make quite the pair.
So long as Deb And Bob didn't breed. Icky.
Actually, I had recently started to wonder if RobertJ and Frisch weren't the same person. The both indiscriminately sprinkle words written in caps in their posts, they both like to attack people's children (while using the word "progeny"), and he "wishes" death for people he argues with (recently said to me, "I genuinely hope YOU brycie are on that train that al quada hits next time around.")
As a re-read Frisch's posts, the similarities are striking.
Frisch is obviously mentally deranged and somewhat beyond criticism.
What was instructive was watching some on the left defend her early on.
greenmamba: I'm not sure what you mean, saying that because Deb F. is "mentally deranged" she is, therefore, beyond criticism.
She was holding down a job, she's "smart" enough to know her way around the blogosphere, and she's gleefully dropping verbal and other questionable blog-bombs all over the place.
I can't see that she's beyond criticism. If she were beyond criticism, then how would it be possible for her to be prosecuted? The lawyer of the person who has charged her will, in fact, be levelling criticism at her and will try to prove that there was malfeasance in her posts and phone calls, and that she knew what she was doing.
Otherwise, wouldn't she have to be found to be mentally insane and locked up in order to be beyond criticism?
Bryceman, you might just have a point there....
Re RobertJ: Earlier in the day he seems even reasonable. It seems that the later and longer he posts, the zanier and more out of control he becomes. I've got my theories. But whatever the reason, he can certainly be very offensive and over the top, as bryceman's noted.
well brycie, you like to make it personal FIRST so its just tit-for-tat.
and dere's dat caps on agin!
and whose progeny are you?
She was holding down a job, she's "smart" enough to know her way around the blogosphere, and she's gleefully dropping verbal and other questionable blog-bombs all over the place.
Good point. Which is why you can rule out psychosis as the problem with this woman. I think she is a big malignant personality disorder - anti-social, narcissistic, histrionic, your pick or all of the above - probably fueled on alcohol or some substance.
She's left herself open to attack as an offensive troll and I won't give her a pass. No one is holding her hands to the keyboard.
RobertJ, on que, another creepy troll, has awakened. How's that for pathology.
RobertJ:
If I were like you, I would try to be condescending and call you Robbie. But I haven't done that. I am not like you.
We were having a discussion about the merits of a claim that someone makes about a perceived status of people as either POWs or criminal defendants. I did attack your ideas...and dealt with them handily. I did not call you names (like bushist). I did not characterize you at all.
Then, you began being insulting. There is no need for me to list them off...the thread is still visible. I responded by saying that you are clearly speaking without the benefit of education...that your opinion, which you have every right to...is without logical or historical basis. That is not personal. That is an attack on ideas and their foundation.
Personal is when you go after someone's family...or tell them that you hope they are killed. That is not tit-for-tat. That is an attempt at one-up-manship. I understand what you are trying to do. You are trying to frustrate people at a level that goes beyond what you received...so that you will occupy as much real estate in their minds as possible.
Openly wishing death on someone because you are losing an argument would be offensive if it weren't so sad. Sad, because you hide behind a handle. I am sure you would not be brave enough to speak that way to anyone face-to-face...because then you could be identified. Is that not what a coward does? (That's also not a personal attacke...it is an honest question. If you don't think that behaving one way behind a shield and another way exposed in the open is the mark of a coward, then say so.)
Give your name. Give your address. Show how brave you are. Prove to everyone that you are not a lower lifeform and that you have the courage of your convictions.
I have nothing to prove because I haven't said anything here that I wouldn't say directly and face-to-face to a person in a debate of the same level - with the other person triggering the insult game.
You claim that you have a special "agreement" with Kate that allows you do get away with "Frischist" behaviour. If true, it is...mind-boggling.
In any case, if Kate has seen fit you let you stay here...I will accept it. But, only because I like the other people here more than I disapprove of your existence. BTW: That disapproval is not because of you attacking my family or wishing my death. But, because those things are evidence that you may be a Frisch in waiting.
Betcha 10 bucks the majority of the people here would agree with me.
Frisch Cheer:
SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH.........or i'll kill you
:)
uh no brycie, take another look at my postings and your PERSONAL attacks. you smear me because I refuse to support the new brand of 'bush' league, citing such actions as the white house arrangemetn to GIVE the iranians blueprints for a fission bomb with the atrociously naive view that planting a couple obvious flaws in it will induce them to build one exactly according to the flawed plans, then get discouraged and yeehaa, give up their efforts. I cite the source, 'merlin' from 'state of war' by James Risen.
then you and your ultra right wing bush at any costs associates attack Risen and NOT *his* sources, and then attack me, conveniently forgetting THIS single act could move iran's nuke plans up by YEARS.
you sirrah, *you* make it personal, I just rachet it up and hand it right back. next time you page back on all your greivances, feel free to cut & paste a s-i-n-g-l-e instance of me initiating the personal attacks.
as far as the name is concerned, 'Robert' is my first name and J is my surname initial. are your initials M. A. N. ? I didnt think so.
if you think its oh so brave and exciting and noble to provide the full tilt ID brycie, YOU go first bud.
and I didnt think so on that either. the plain truth brycie is as they say, you can dish it out but you cant take it.
I however am perfectly willing to dish it out to those who insult me personally FIRST. and when it continues, if they dont 'get the message' as in your case, then I up the ante. plain and simple.
the fact of this situation sirrah is I spend vastly more time focussing on the real threat to peace in the world and that is the bush white house.
y'all feel free to check out the current issue of rolling stone magazine about the TORTURE of a fifteen year old going on there. and regardless of who shot who first, the fact remains kahdr was in IRAQ when he popped one at the americans.
this does NOT excuse inflicting torture 3 years later the other side of the globe. regardless of who is a 'non-combatant' or any other convenient category or non-category.
the americans have painted themselves into the corner here because their true motives are gluttonously selfish. the crap about removing a tyrant is the veneer presented to your precious MSM and thence to the cherry picking public.
300,000,000,000 dollars and they still dont have running water around the clock everywhere. deplorable.
etc etc
furthermore, fred over at the swastika restaurant thread insults my intelligence and points out my misinterpretation of his contribution,
I respond by acknowledging said misreading and move one without exchanging insults:
""None of these totals includes the deaths due to war" [from fred's original posting]
my resonse:
uh yup. thats what you said. I take it back. 12 million regular folksie dead puts herr adolph down the list behind joe and the squat pudgy cummunist from the far east.
I wonder, is the 21st century is going to be as lethal as the last one? if so is it going to be disease and starvation that does it?
when did the native n american indians start using the swastika? its actually rather simple connection of lines, maybe they came up with it on their own.
Posted by: RobertJ at August 24, 2006 12:18 AM "
so, who exhibits honesty and willingness to admit an oversight without boxing it in an insult?
ME people !!! quoting: "I take it back"
HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE THAT ON A BLOG??????
but not brycie so far......
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