Surfing through the “liberal” left side of the blogosphere today, you’re certain to be met with opinions like this;
“Lets make one thing clear. Bush has not brought freedom and democracy to Iraq.”
I forget where I saw that. Not that it matters – you’ll find echoes of that statement from the Canadian left any day of the week. They are uniformly unimpressed with the fact that over 60% of Iraqi citizens turned out to cast votes in a decision that approved their new Constitution (which we were assuredly warned some weeks ago would never see the light of day) by a margin of nearly 80% to 20%.
Which got me to thinking – back to the Trudeau years, actually.
Remember that day when we all voted on ours?

More Iraqis died today. What did the constitution do to protect them?
When murdering thugs get to killing, the constitution won’t protect them, just like our constitution doesn’t protect the citizens of Toronto from gun toting thugs there.
It will give them HOPE, hope of a better world, hope to continue winning the fight against the murders of women and children. When the thugs are as immoral as the bastards in Iraq, hope for peace is what provides the strength to combat the Saddam leftovers.
Because before the US lead coalition liberated the people of Iraq, hundreds of thousands died hopeless deaths in aggresive wars against Iran and Kuwait and in the jails and concentarion camps that Saddam and his sons operated with ruthless efficiency. Can you say Chemical murder attacks on the Kurds ?
I don’t expect you to understand Robert, its hard to see the light when you are so filled with hatred of America.
Suffer on dude, you only have yourself to blame and live with. Must be ugly in the morning looking in that mirror. Do you actually get a reflection ??
Speaking of ugly communists looking in that mirror:
The following joke (?) circulated in Communist-controlled Poland at the height of the Cold War:
A high-ranking Communist government apparatchik gets up every morning and stands before his mirror to shave. He looks in his mirror; he says to himself, “One of you is a liar.”>>>
RM:
Canadians died today.
What did the Charter of Rights do to protect them?
Moron.
How about we suggest a Suicide Bomber Registry to the Iraqi Government? That’ll protect the Iraqi civilians.
We, the Canadian people, denied our most basic democratic right, by a political party steeped in a tradition of corruption from the very beginning of their history. Hey, but that Charter of Rights has sure made a lot of money for the lawyers of the left. All paid for by guess who?
“…unimpressed with the fact that over 60% of Iraqi citizens turned out to cast votes…”
Over a 60% voter turnout? Wow. Maybe we need the U.S. to invade us next.
Chretien said Canada would not assist the USA, Great Britain, et al, in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Here is the reason(s) why not: The French Equation: Chretien/Desmarais/Strong/Martin/Chirac/Power Corp., Total(FinaElf), & etc. >>> Filthy Lucrative Oil Deals With Saddam, the Butcher of Baghdad.
Think of Saddam’s wood-chippers,Saddam’s WMD, Saddam’s gassing/murder of the Kurds, Saddam’s invasions of Iran & Kuwait, the Al-Qaeda connections to Saddam & 9/11, & etc. as you read. >>>>
France’s largest oil company: Total(FinaElf), of which, Power Corp.,Montreal, is the biggest shareholder.>>>>
Lucrative oil deal with Saddam
“France�s largest oil company, Total (formerly TotalFinaElf) had negotiated lucrative oil contracts with the Hussein regime after Gulf War 1 to drill in Southern Iraq.” (The Real Coalition of the Bribed and Coerced, GeoPoliticalReview, October 8, 2004). “These negotiations took place in anticipation of an eventual weakening or lifting of the economic sanctions imposed on Iraq, thereby allowing them to immediately execute said contracts worth approximately $650-billion. Without Saddam in power, those oil contracts would naturally be void, so France had incentive to keep him in power to maintain their competitive advantage. On a related note, the destruction of the homeland of the “Marsh Arabs” in Southern Iraq (much publicized after the fall of Baghdad) was reportedly done by Saddam at the bequest of Total representatives after coming under repeated attacks during their oil speculating endeavors in the region.”
In other words, ensuring the physical safety of the agents of France�s biggest oil company, of which the Paul Desmarais Montreal-based Power Corporation is the biggest shareholder, had a hand to play in the deliberate destruction of what many regard as the cradle of civilization. >>>>
http://acepilots.com/unscam/archives/002055.html
old news maz don’t forget france chretien is married to desmarais jr. of powercorp who loves France the country, throw in the U.N. oil for food fiasco, Maurice notsovery Strong, add water and stir.
Sean we really do need a US invasion
How about we suggest a Suicide Bomber Registry to the Iraqi Government? That’ll protect the Iraqi civilians.
See, now that’s funny. That quote in the post is from Roberts blog by the way…..
I don’t think I know anyone named “Robert”.
60% is the lowest number I have read. I can’t say I have seen the left say anything remotely remarkable about this event.
The turnout was higher than Canada’s last election, a fact I am sure of.
“2000” American deaths huh? “2000” died in Afghanistan, after 150% more died in one day.
robert poor lad you give him books and books and books all he does is eat the pages
Great point!
robert mc
another shiity line.
60% of Iraqi’s vote for their constitution under the threat of being killed in doing so. 50ish % of Canadians vote for our government under the threat of not being able to park directly in front of the polling station and having to walk a couple of blocks.
Strange- I don’t recall ever voting on our ‘constitution’- or the ‘charter of rights and freedoms’, either.
If I could have voted on our charter, I would have done a pirouette too.
The only way to vote on something like a ‘constitution’ is to take the right.
Anyone that tries to get in our way of taking our constitutional rights better be better armed than I am.
Liberty is taken, it is never given”
GG what’s her name
…The 60 percent turnout in Canada�s most recent election is not something we can afford to be complacent about, states Milner. �We need to know more about the relationship between what Canadians know about politics and their levels of participation (p.7).� And the �crucial variable� is what he calls �civic literacy� defined as �the knowledge to be effective citizens (p.8).� Milner�s study of 16 countries comparable to Canada reveals that just as in voter turnout Canadians rank behind most European countries in �civic literacy� and are fast drifting down to the American levels of political ignorance…
http://www.irpp.org/newsroom/archive/2001/072601e.pdf
THE SPEAKERS’ SHRINKING CORNER
Britain’s tradition of free speech is under assault
…Restricting speech at Speakers’ Corner in London is the “Canadianization of Britain,” a U.K. professor says…
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=54d2178e-13b3-4722-ab93-9c6c680916bc
E-Coli Do Not Drink E-Coli Do Not Drink E-Coli
Another exhibit in the Liberal Gum Registry: This scandal has occurred under the Chretien/Martin Liberal government. Hold Chretien/Martin accountable for this black hole of e-coli.
National Gum Registry -Canada
Exhibit # 4,670,094 : >>>>>
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/
http://www.rapp.org/url/?AOAQZR5B
Ontario orders residents on E. coli-stricken reserve to evacuate
By The Canadian Press
Oct 26, 2005, 00:10
Ottawa would have to approve the move of a reserve�s residents and the province might have to locate appropriate Crown land, he said.
The reserve had been under a boil-water order for more than two years before federal officials warned last week that the water was showing high levels of E. coli, which can be fatal for the young and elderly.
Water samples taken between Oct. 17 and Oct. 19 indicate no E. coli bacteria present in the community�s water supply, the federal government said in a statement Tuesday.
Turbidity levels are also within provincial standards, Ottawa said, but the boil water advisory will remain in effect until repairs to the plant are complete.
Indian and Northern Affairs is shipping bottled water and Health Canada has dispatched a community medicine specialist and senior environmental health officer to the community. >>>>
Bottle water? From ZENON, the company owned by Martin’s buddies, including Maurice Strong?
Kate, into the mix I toss this link to the comments of hizzhonour MP John McKay, recorder speaking on CFRB this week.
http://www.walltmg.com/mckay/mckay%20on%20cfrb.mp3 Just add http and stir.
Mr. McKay is of the opinion that there’s no conceivable reason for anyone in the GTA to posess a firearm, so it should be just peachy for the cops to confiscate them all. You have to hear him say it to get the full flavor.
Gun ban on the ballot next election. Count on it.
I find it telling that Liberals and other assorted statists place some value on “democracy” alone as a “cure” to tyranny . Democracy is, by itself, only one step above dictatorship. It is two wolves and a chicken voting on what to have for supper. It is mob rule and the tyranny of the mob prevails…and Liberal statists in this nation have used the majority mandate excuse to engage in bureaucratic tyranny for almost a century. I’m sure all statocrats value the mob and their ability to manipulate it into damaging individual politically unpopular minorities…..and conservatives and Christians should heed this because they ARE minorities.
Without constitutional rule of law restraining the mob, big government and corporate cronyism, democracy is nothing more than the masses having the right to vote for their oppressor/dictator……as I’m sure many Canadians now realize.
Now, back to PET and his vice regal authoritarianism. His Charter was NOT a proper citizen empowering constitution in the Anglo-American-Republican sense, but a socialist state manifesto presented to the plebians from a supreme authority to a lesser plebian mass…..and you certainly DON’t ratify by ballot a socialist-statist operational decree. So get that “we didn’t vote for this thing” idea out of your silly little plebian head….the affairs of state in a socialist state are for the political class and the cultural elite….not the masses.
I urge every Canadian to read section one of the charter and try to understand the implications of this important legal decree. It states that the citizen of Canada is INFERIOR and SUBORDINATE to the Canadian state…NOT equal to it ( within individual legal right) as an individual citizen under law is in the British Commonwealth or American Republican constitutional systems. The Charter foisted Roman/Franco code law on us where we had British Civil law before which held the individual to be equal to the state in all his dealings with it ( with his natural rights)
Trudeau’s decree allows the state to remove any or all of your rights at its whim and it puts the charter in the possession of the state and it’s courts, not the people…..it is a blueprint for authoritarian statism….it protects the state and not the individual.
Kate, on Canadians not voting directly on their constitution, what’s your point? The Americans didn’t either. Their State legislatures did. It’s called representative democracy, you should look into it some time.
Buzz – this post is based on a quote from a Canadian blogger who is arguing – no, asserting – that democracy has not arrived in Iraq.
My “point” is this: the Iraqis certainly seem to be voting on questions the citizens of this “democratic” country would never be offered.
Actually Buzz, they did by their representitves to the constitutional continental congress….AND ratification required UNANIMOUS support…..unlike the jaded charter which requires only 75% to amend and was ratified without the consent of Canada’s largest province.
Mob rule in the socialist backwater…..the no respect for civil due process where a state initiated policy is concerned.
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=95b4acf7-47bd-436b-b854-6355e7a5ae74
excellent description of RM & his ilk . . . just a happy band of Fascists
“Liberals [in the American sense] can’t bring themselves to support freedom in Iraq lest they seem to collude with neoconservative bombast,” Ignatieff wrote in The New York Times Magazine on the occasion of the recent Iraqi election. “All this makes you wonder when the left forgot the proper name for people who bomb polling stations, kill election workers and assassinate candidates. The right name for such people is fascists.”
This is a fun comments thread! 🙂
KIMV:
…and the sad part is, it was started by RM!
Maybe we should invite the leftists over to chat more often.
JasperPants
Hey, Canada is a totalitarian state since PET
He used and his old party still uses …
Divide an conquer through multi culturalism and Bilingualism policies.
They distance us from our freedom loving neighbor through things like the metric system and general insults and vehemence.
They keep us from protesting, through phoney baloney programs like health care, nanny state welfare and pension plans that are bitter failures.
They keep us dumbed down with an inferior socialist union run education system.
They further divide us through homosexual acceptance policies that outrage many. Drugs are next.
They vilify anyone with religious convictions.
They make or change laws in a minute to suit their own ends to receive perks and pay-outs, but labor on with never-ending excuses for things like returning gas tax money for roads.
They maintain secrecy of their own dealings through nearly nil access to much of what should be available through the freedom in Information channels.
They buy off and coerce rival Politicians who may have a chance of being elected where they want a candidate. Stronache and that gay cabilliario from the Maritimes whose name escapes me, comes to mind along with the minister of health who can barely climb a set of stairs without a respirator. Ujjal Dosange.
They use excessive taxation to keep us from being too prosperous and too independent.
They pander to minorities to keep them around to maintain the divisions between us all.
They are working hard to take all guns away from all citizens so there will be no fear about anything happening as they turn the screws in the future. And they do not worry about the criminals having their guns, because criminals don’t have politics and they keep the city dweller in a state of fear that only they can protect from. Plus they are strangely kindred.
The only part I don’t get .. is why they don’t want an army or large police forces … unless they want someone else’s in here eventually (world government army?) or perhaps they so don’t fear the population that they don’t think they need to use force against the weak-willed , frightened, mild mannered Canadian donkeys.
That comment about the lack of a large standing army/police force might give some people ideas about a vacuum waiting to be filled. If things get any worse, it may be from our neighbor to the south, merely confirming what has been a fact of life since the 60’s.
Duke and Monique:
Part of the reason the CF is kept small and poorly equipped is that the liberals don’t really trust us, as a demographic. Lots of us don’t vote liberal. Our loyalty to Canada does NOT generally equate to loyalty to the Liberal party, which is immediately suspect. Remember, the sole purpose of the Liberal party is to keep the Liberal party in power. Protection of citizens from threats internal and external can only be accidental at best.
Just a quick note that the MSM in the United States of America is now reporting voter turnout in Irag was 81% (WOW! Fantastic!) with a “Yes” vote coming in at 78%.
Outstanding.