16 Replies to “Heirarchy Of Gas Guzzlers”

  1. Havent owned a car for over twenty-five years, (“wheels for wetbacks”) Mugabe is eliminating the people he is not capable of feeding, etc.-what is your problem? (Wait! Bring them all here- they will vote Librano.) (Eat my shorts).

  2. I will be fun to watch the gas guzzlers cry as they pay $1.50 a litre. It will be even more fun watching the “greens” pay the same price, and crying equally…

  3. You know what the funny thing is about my “gas guzzler”?
    Trading it in for something that gets even double the milage will end up costing me more.
    That’s the bottom line. When you’re driving a truck that’s paid for, that costs $36 a month to insure, for which parts and service are a fraction of that of a newer vehicle (even less used) – 12 mpg. is affordable.

  4. Just announced – winners of the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation’s 76th Lottery. 1st Prize: a Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab. Lots of chainsaws given away too.
    Actually, if it costs less to drive that 1986 pickup, do it. Cost is a fairly good estimator of environmental impact. Manufacturing a new truck to replace a functional old one may not be justifiable. But I figure $1.50/L might make the environmental cost estimates a bit more accurate. I personally will not be crying when I pay that at the pumps. Maybe it will push the automakers to finally deliver something that even equals, let alone improves on, the mileage they were delivering fifteen years ago. My 1990 Nissan 4×4 just died (exhaust coming out the radiator!) at nearly 300,000 kms, and we may yet repair it, because nothing newer is any more efficient.

  5. I converted a 3/4 ton GMC with a small block 350 to dual propane/gasoline in the late 70s. The conversion was easy. After I converted it I drove it in to Kamloops on gasoline to get it approved and have the tags put on. Then I switched over to Propane and never looked back. Drove it for 7 years.
    They always say that it’s silly to convert because propane will eventually be the same price as gasoline. They were saying that in the 70s when I converted and they’re saying it now. But it never will be. I kept a 500 gallon tank of propane for standby heat for the house and usually filled the truck from that. I can’t remember the difference in price but it was probably quite a bit. For someone living on a farm or in the country this is also a good way to keep your fuel costs down, even though it’s probably illegal as you’re not paying the road tax.
    Just checked the price of vehicle propane here in BC. It’s 54.9 per litre. Gas goes up and down between 93.9 and 103.9 per litre.
    Another thing. Don’t believe it when someone tells you that you’ll get less MGP on propane than on gasoline. After 7 years and at least 120,000 miles I can honestly say that I coudn’t notice it. It’s true that propane contains less energy content than gasoline for the same volume. But the engine runs quieter and cooler on propane. It also requires less oil changes and starts in the coldest weather. I drove this truck all over BC and Alberta in the middle of winter and it never once refused to start.
    One last thing. Propane is safer than gasoline. Lots of people will say otherwise but the experts don’t agree with them. But that’s a whole other story.
    So, keep your old paid for vehicles and convert them to propane. I can’t see propane going up as fast as gasoline these days.

  6. Kate the Liberals have pulled a fast one. They made a deal with the bloc today to extend parliament but then they forced closure on the c48 budget this evening and are forcing a vote tonight knowing that the Cons dont have all their people attending. So its slam dunk for the Libs on C48 and C38.

  8. We are being pulled into the socialist view of the infamous “pie”. The one which is only so big and must be divided equally. There is no point in saving fuel. What for? To make it last another ten years? When we get down to the last few barrels, will it be rationed out to ambulances and Libranos. Gas is a motive fuel, part of the transportation system and an integral part of the economy. At some cost/ benefit point some other source will come into use. It will probably be cumbersome and inconvienent at first as the first cars were, but it will come. And an end to one part of the air pollution problem. If you wish to see that day, buy a Hummer and drive like hell.

  9. I drove a fully converted propane van for years – 81 Chevy, it carried three tanks underneath. Looked like the Space Shuttle when it was up on a hoist…

  10. $1.50 a litre? Ha!
    Here in the UK, gas is hovering around + or – 90p per litre (that’s $2.00 folks).
    And guess what? There are still droves of SUVs and high-performance vehicles EVERYWHERE.*
    * That �60,000 Range Rover SUV is just the thing for negotiating those near-impassable rough mountain tracks all over Knightsbridge, Kensington and Notting Hill…

  11. The problem with rising gas prices, or increasing/creating taxes and levies on SUVs is that it just makes them that much more expensive to own and drive. (duh!). This is a problem because it just makes them that much more desireable as a status symbol.

  12. “I drove a fully converted propane van for years – 81 Chevy, it carried three tanks underneath. Looked like the Space Shuttle when it was up on a hoist…”
    You’re my kind of woman Kate.

  13. 40 gallons of propane got me exactly 6 hours (600 k) down the road in that van.
    Generally, even when you purchase a full size cargo van, you expect a 350 cu inch engine to get a little better milage than that.
    Those sorts of assumptions don’t factor in the possibility that the previous owner had used it to tow race boats…. and had rebuilt the engine with oversize pistons and racing cam…..

  14. Lots of things you can do to an engine for specific purposes. I got about 19 MPG on propane in the 3/4 ton Chevy with a standard 350. The only thing I did was to gap the plugs a bit different (can’t remember the details), advance the timing a bit after converting it to propane. As I remember I got about 18 MPG with gasoline. In the winter I got a bit less on gasoline because you had to warm the darn thing up before taking off. With propane you just touch the starter and take off. No warming up.
    This was with a box on the back that stuck up about 6″ above the cab.

  15. Gasoline in Iran is 0.08 dollars a litre(government subsidized). I don’t think it has helped the Iranian economy.

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