Yet Another Publication Ban

…but with a twist:

The judge in the Robert Pickton murder trial has taken an extra step to stop banned court information from leaking onto the Internet.

BC Supreme Court Justice Jim Williams refused a ban requested by Pickton’s lawyer that would order people not to talk about the case outside the court.

The normal pretrial ban remains in place � with the order that the media not mention website addresses that might contain court-banned material.

It looks like Canada’s judiciary has learned from the past few months.

28 Replies to “Yet Another Publication Ban”

  1. I take “the media” to mean newspapers and tv but blogs for example can still write what they want?

  2. The ban on Pickton’s murder trial will also help to cover up the gross incompetence and lack of interest of the authorities who took so long to catch up with him.

  3. Off topic: This just in :
    I just returned from a function with high level corporate individuals. A fund raising golf tourney to be precise.
    Profound advice is to move all financial assets off shore; out of Canada. Paul Martin’s own company CSL has already done this but my friend is now taking most of his assets to Australia; plotting his own personal move there and advising anyone who will listen to get all of their assets out of canada now!
    There are many complicated reasons – one is that the federal debt has been understated by the Liberals by many many billions; the revenues over stated and that it is not only the UIC 50 billion funds that have been plundered but the pension funds are suspect as well.
    Personal debt is now the highest of the G8 and the impending and inevitable raise in interst rates partially because of Federal Overspending in non-priority areas is going to put interest rates over the sustainable rates and cause thousands of bancruptcys’
    The financial community is already preparing for Canada’s demotion to a Banana Republic and quietly moving assets.
    The Liberal destruction of Canada is well underway. Apparently it is easier to move assets to another Commonwealth country so if you can my friend advises Australia in the short term.
    There is so much more he and numerous high level financial advisors told me tonight that my head spins – the conspiracy theories some of you have been musing about no longer seem in the least bit far fetched – and yes, China does have a role in some of this.
    Changing the government from Liberal will not change the behind the scenes power mongers, it is too late.
    Paul Martin, Jack Layton et al have no choice but to play along. If Stephen Harper cannot be bought or comprimised he will be replaced.
    Notice the last few weeks, the drive to “replace Harper” – that is the real powers spearheading it. The next Conservative leader will have to be more pliable.
    That is what is happening now. We have no say, no choice and no power to stop this.

  4. HappyDaze is exactly right. Notice the changes to the military so that it can deal with problems inside Canada. These problems that the power structure behind the Liberal party forsee are citizen uprisings and rebellions. The low interest rates and sky-high real estate prices are almost at a peak. It’s happend twice before in my lifetime. It’s happening again as we speak. I don’t know what the answer is at this stage. HappyDaze may be right that it is too late. But everyone needs to remember one thing. Everything goes in cycles. Now is the time to sell your home and other real estate. And most people are buying. There will indeed be a hell of a lot of bankruptcies coming soon. Homes will be extremely cheap then. And the smart people are once again “selling too early…”
    There are not that many power cartel at the top. They are, for the most part, easily identified. When things begin to fall apart and the government turns the army and RCMP against the people remember Trudeau. It didn’t take Trudeau long to use this power.
    And I agree with what HappyDaze says about Harper. The polls, MSM, Liberal Party, et al are controlled by these few fabulously rich families. But there are a lot more of us. Things could get ugly when the shit hits the fan.

  5. HD: I’ve gotten multiple whiffs of the same thing from different sources. My home is up for sale as you read this and we’re going to put the equity into a trailer out in the country. By this time next month I’ll be mortage free, rent free, and debt free. A rather large garden has been planted and I anticipate spending a few weeks canning veggies and fruit like crazy this fall.
    When the downturn hits, and it’s going to hit freakin’ hard this time, I will be sitting in the country with a smile on my face and my assets sitting offshore.

  6. HD. Good for you. We sold our house in Calgary in 1973 and moved to the interior of BC. Lived there for fifteen years. Remember those years? And then again in the late 80s and early 90s. Prices and interest reates went sky high.
    We had a garden, fruit trees in the front yard on the lake, right above the dock. We heated the house with wood. The kids came home after school by bus and we went fishing, swimming, water skiing, etc. We juiced apples in season, ate our own veggies for the most part, and fished when we wanted to. Great place to raise a family. None of the problems during those years affected us a bit.
    Now is the time to sell for sure. In my opinion at least. Better to be a bit early than a bit late.

  7. good job, JC, Sean is a wee bit … loud? is that a good word?
    This is good info – I was about to move out of a real cheap rental and buy. Maybe I’ll wait a bit, or trade up to a different (larger) rental instead of buying.
    ick. What on earth have we come to?

  8. “Sean is a wee bit … loud? is that a good word?”
    I’m actually shy and quiet when you meet me in person. Typical computer geek, you know. 😉

  9. Sounds good to me Candace. I’ve been accused of being a bit loud myself. But I really do appreciate a vehicle like this. It helps all of us to be able to exchange views and blow off a bit of steam. Also nice to get some real information from real people who have real views and opinions instead of what their employer tells them.
    Blogs are becoming very important.

  10. LOL Sean! “meek & quiet computer geek” HA! she says! Go & sell it to the marines, you soap-box-climbing-right-wing-kinda-guy! Too funny.
    But I can relate. I hate meeting new people, I hate crowds, I hate “schmoozing” but I’m in sales so I fake it. Go figure.
    And JC, you’re right. Blogs are going to somehow save us from this friggin’ mess. I’m not sure HOW exactly, and perhaps I’m still stuck in Pollyanna-mode, but I refuse to believe that the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.
    If we DON’T have an election soon (or a non-Lib gov’t from said election), then maybe the move will come from both PQ and AB, but something will happen.
    It has to. (she says, desperately).

  11. Question to JC, HappyDaze and others re rent vs. buy.
    Living in Edmonton (Alberta), are you sure I should not buy? I would think that, given the above info and potential shit-storm to hit Canada, that Alberta will be one of the few places where housing will go up…
    hmmmmmm

  12. The Internet is a wonderful gift that lets us reach out and touch someone in a way that is not threatening. Blogs are a refinement of this and a way that anyone, who may know nothing about how to publish on the Net, write HTML, PSP, or operate their own Web site, to make their point and converse with others. Become part of the process so to speak.
    The Internet is what is going to hold the world together. It is beyond the control of governments. And it is a way for mankind to ‘pool ideas, exchange information, and work on projects’ that would be utterly beyond our abilities otherwise. The Internet, I truly believe, is ushering in a new kind of human being. A better human being. It’s grass roots in nature, empowering and enormously powerful.

  13. Candace. You should not take my advice. I have made probably many more mistakes in my life than you have. So listen to yourself first.
    Howerver… 🙂 … I really can’t see things going on much longer. But I do think that if you can afford a home, are able to handle higher mortgage payments when your bank rasies the interest rates, and are prepared to live in it for years, that it is probably a good plan. There’s nothing like home in tough times. My only thought would be how to handle things when or if the electricity was turned off or the just-in-time nature of our food stores resulted in bare shelves for awhile. A good garden in the back yard is easy. And some form of standby power is not hard to set up either. Just takes some planning.
    I don’t think things will get this bad but you never know. Look at Ontario and Manitoba after a really bad ice storm. Some of those folks were without power for many weeks.

  14. JC I hear you. But I don’t know that I’m in a space where I could afford higher payments in a hurry. I need to sit back and evaluate for a bit (not a long time, but a bit).
    Gardens can also be grown in rentals (she says with a smirk, knowing full well she owns the world record for plant-killing). On the upside, my mother is a kick-ass gardener. And I know the “grow potatoes in tires” trick so might get by on that. Regardless, Edmonton has some serious Farmers’ Markets that I can take full advantage of, and the kid is still a fan of KD (although I may puke if I see it too many more times).
    Worst case scenario? Move in with my cousin in a small town 40-50 miles east of Edmonton and schlep the kid into school (‘cuz it’s a kickass school and worth it).
    Working from home has its advantages, location being the biggest.

  15. Amazingly enough, I’ve noticed myself paying attention to the Canadian Tire ad for the potentially solar-powered generator (the one that you can take camping).
    Yikes. I must admit to scaring myself. But will likely buy the damn thing anyway (hey, according to the ads, it’s only around $150 or so, cheap should we be in deep doodoo).
    omG. I’ve become a true tinfoilhat mountain-dwelling (ok, just considering it) super-conservative-sicko.
    Regardless, McVeigh was an idiot and someone I would never, ever, ever support.
    (Just had to say that).)

  16. I’ve noticed tons of this stuff, just in the last year. Solar powered generators, mechanical flashlights (the white LED ones), crank operated cell phone chargers, generator ads on tv.
    I’ve been writing about this for the last few months. As I’ve said in several places: it’s time.
    Within 5 years, Canada as we know it will cease to exist. That timeline could very well be a lot shorter, too. Virtually everyone I’ve been dealing with in the US who does business in Canada is taking a close look at just what their options are. I’m changing from an ontario based mortgage to a local one. One of the US companies I’m doing contract work for has offered me a green card sponsorship if I need it.
    I know this sounds needlessly alarming to some, if so, good for you 🙂 I envy your trust.

  17. How inclined would Canada’s military be to go against it’s citizens on behalf of a corrupt government?

  18. Jay:
    The military command-structure is a force to be reckoned wth. The generals at the top all owe thier positions to the liberals, so they’ll just tow the line..

  19. Off topic but……I have sent this to my MP and will hunt down other MPs….. what say you out there???
    To whom it may concern:
    I am wondering if it is just me………….. I was going to write a little note to a Conservative MP. So I went to the parties web site and found something very interesting. The site does not link to Mps. I also noted that the MP for West Vancouver…. sunshine coast does not exist. When trying to link to My own MP Jim Gouk there was nothing there.
    One has to wonder what is going on. The site is very weak when it comes to linkages. I have found better connections on Blogs than I have with the Official Oppositions site and that makes little sense. I filled in the Volunteer request section a while back and have received no response….. Hello? ..I offered suggestions as to how they could better respond to Liberal attacks and again….. Hello? No response at all.
    Given the massive response the Liberals always have against the Conservatives in the media you would think the party would use every resource at it�s disposal, but such is not the case. Why is that?
    There are many talented people across this country who are producing very good arguments as to why Canadians should be supporting the Conservatives and not the Liberals but they don�t seem to be being used. Why is that? If you wish to counteract the Liberal biased media you can�t really expect that media to help you do you? You can�t really be that naive can you?
    There is only one place that the Liberals don�t yet own. That is cyberspace. How long this will last is hard to say but this next election could be the last election where the government does not control cyberspace election campaigning. What are you guys waiting for?
    Kent Blaker

  20. Steve in E. Ontario: What about the troops tho, the guys actually holding the rifles?
    Down here, say for example a president simply refused to leave office at the end of his term and called out the army after riots started. I can’t picture the army complying – first allegiance is to the Constitution.
    Of course in that scenario I doubt it would get that far, the Secret Service would probably haul him out.

  21. “The military command-structure is a force to be reckoned wth. The generals at the top all owe thier positions to the liberals, so they’ll just tow the line…”
    The military command structure owes its allegiance to the Libs, but the rank and file, the ones getting killed in subs and Sea Kings and living off the food bank because of their low pay DO NOT.

  22. TruthSayer, No, it’s not just you. I too have noticed the buffer between the CPC and the web.
    The lack of exposure may be to reduce acts of vandalism, like that which caused Andrew Coyne to close off comments at his site.
    When I do get through, I notice a lack of, or very slow response. Harper is a very conservative guy. He may be wisely protecting the flank. Who knows?
    There are open avenues though. There is JohnWilliams.ca/wastereport.htm 73s TG

  23. It’s a good idea to have your secure postal address at a *Mail Boxes are Us* type of depot.
    Most of us boxholders have a main door key and collect our mail once or twice a week. I would not use my last name on the web if the listed address was my residence. Also try not to be too powerful on SSm comments. Those guys are passionate.
    73s TG

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