This handy primer courtesy of the Blue Maple Leaf;
When Gurmant Grewal first notified the public that he had been offered a cabinet post, the liberal party, including the Prime Minister, denied that anyone had ever talked to Gurmant.
When Gurmant said that he had been recorded his conversations with liberal party members, the Prime Minister changed his story and said that liberal party members were negotiating with Gurmant, but that Gurmant initiated the negotiations. Paul Martin added that at no time did he ever agree to meet with the Conservative MP.
However, the audio tapes clearly show that the chief of staff for Prime Minister Paul Martin said, “The Prime Minister is prepared to talk to you directly both by phone and in person.”
During question period in the House of Commons Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper asked the Prime Minister why he said he was unwilling to meet with the Conservative MP when clearly he was.
Paul Martin answered by repeating his previous lie, that Gurmant initiated discussions with the liberal party. The Prime Minister also said that he gave specific instructions to senior party members that no offer could be given to entice a defection and at no time was the Prime Minister prepared to meet with the Conservative MP. Then Paul Martin ended his answer by saying, “obviously anyone would meet with somebody that was interested in crossing the floor.”
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Paul Martin again changed his story by saying that he would not be willing to meet with the Conservative MP unless he joined the liberal party with no preconditions or offers from the liberals.
Now, go back to the beginning and review the first sentence;
When Gurmant Grewal first notified the public that he had been offered a cabinet post, the liberal party, including the Prime Minister, denied that anyone had ever talked to Gurmant.
When Paul Martin proclaimed ‘I did not have sex with that MP’ that last thing he expected was that Grewal would still have the stained blue tape in his possession.
A brief history of lying
But the media seems to be buying each lie as it is offered, so I guess Paul will keep lying and hope that everyone just gets so confused that they’ll assume that he must be telling the truth after all.
well said, Sean
Maybe Mr. Martin didn’t expect his denials to be captured on tape? After all, it was in front of the media. (See May 16th entry on http://warrenkinsella.com/musings_may05.htm 🙂
And, courtesy of a May 18th link, we are reminded of an old CBC story:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/05/18/grewel-050518.html
I guess there had to be so many meetings because the Liberals were so busy rejecting Grewal’s initial demands. I’d forgotten the old line, “I am actually offended that he wouldn’t take no for an answer.”
Or perhaps that part was excluded from all the tapes.
Kate I am really quite offended. The Liberal party, including the Prime Minister of Canada, denied that anyone had ever talked to Gurmant Grewal. What, exactly, are you insinuating? Have you ever been sued?
The tapes are the machination of a sneaky Christian Westerner who wants to align with Quebec to break up Canada. I will not tolerate your nonsense. Read the papers if you don’t believe me.
I believe this all pertains to Peter MacKay’s dog.
In case the other thread dies, here’s an interesting point. On CTV’s website Dosanjh is quoted as saying, “”he’s missed the tape of a two-hour conversation with me in my home,” Dosanjh said.”
So, does this mean Dosanjh knew he was being recorded? Or, were the Fibs also recording so they would have dirt that could be released on Grewal and others they were talking with?
I think Dosanjh may have missed the announcement that the taping at his place was ineffective and that apparently nothing could be extracted from those tapes.
If the Prime Minister is willing to fudge so many lines as part of a mere parliamentary showdown, what of a full-fledged unity crisis?
This is hardly an academic question. With every passing poll, the prospect of yet another Canada-Quebec showdown is becoming more real.
The latest poll, produced by CROP for La Presse this week, does not so much check the pulse of the federalist forces in the province as take the temperature of a corpse. With sovereignty at higher tide than it has been in years, the provincial and federal Liberals look dead in the water in Quebec.
Never in the modern history of the province has a Quebec government been as unpopular as Premier Jean Charest’s; never in living memory have the federal Liberals enjoyed so little support.
Those are the kind of numbers that have government insiders and Parliament Hill observers alike cringing at the notion that Martin’s mettle could one day soon be tested in a real-life crisis involving the future of the country.
Those concerns were compounded by the performance of the Prime Minister in front of senior managers of the civil service earlier this week. Martin’s speech moved part of the audience but its emotional undertones left others uneasily wondering about his frailty.
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“Whispers of rebellion swirl in Martin’s ranks.”
Chantal Hebert
The Star.com
http://www.newsbeat1.com
And as our prime minister has stated many times and with great conviction,”I am not a crook!”or words to that effect.I for one believe him as to do otherwise would also make him a liar.
Of course, as anyone drinking the Globe-CBC Kool-Aid knows, it is GREWAL’s integrity that is in question here…
After all, Martin DID put the confidence of the house to a vote! (No vote…no vote…no vote…what’s that, Belinda bit?!?!?!? VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!)
Oh you meant THAT Gurmant Grewal
The CPC might as well take down their siege engines, fold up their tents and go home. They’ve lost the Battle of the Tapes. The moment the Party issued a news release acknowledging that whoops, minor errors indeed were made in transcribing the material from the original tapes onto CD, the argument shifted to ground chosen by the Liberals.
The CPC can bleat all it wants that the little omissions don’t change the substance of their arguments one whit, the Liberals will simply counter with “How can we trust that any of the transcription is accurate? You’ve already admitted there were errors. What errors were made that you haven’t told us about?… Yadda, yadda, yadda.”
Communications 101 instructors in every university in the land (and probably in not a few elementary schools) are already writing this one up as a case study in how to blow one of the biggest slam-dunks ever handed to a political party.
Back to the drawing board, folks, and please revoke Mr Grewal’s Radio Shack credit card, for God’s sake!
The quote that defined the Chretien regime was the famous “Da Proof is a Proof” gaffe.
The quote that will define the short live Martin cartel is contained on the Grewal tape: “No one can forget such gestures but they require a certain degree of deniability.”
The “degree of deniability”…manufacturing it, offering it and hiding behind it…this defines the Martin cartel era.
Why the big deal about whether Grewal was offered a bribe (he was although the reward was implied rather than explicit) when we know that B.S. crossed the floor in return for a cabinet position.
Terry, BS crossed because Stephen Harper is an angry cross-burner with a hidden agenda who doesn’t like men having sex with each other. And he wouldn’t let her be leader – BWAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!
I agree with Mike, this is a major screwup for the CPC. Why can’t they get anything right? What is going on with this party. As far as B.S. crossing the floor and receiving a Cabinet post, if anyone thinks the Cdn public will view this as corruption they are as deluded as the CPC media communications dep’t.
Hmmm, an error was made in copying a tape to file to cd and this is makes it a CPC screwup?
Let’s see, on one side, a backbencher’s ethics and the CPC’s abilities to properly burn a cd are questionable. On the other side, a Cabinet minister, the PM’s chief of staff and the PM all seem to be either involved in, or at least aware of activities that are borderline criminal and clearly unethical. The whole affair has been in the spotlight for going on two weeks now. I’d be more than willing to take a few minor hits to keep this one in the public eye. The damage to the Liberals is far, far worse than that to the CPC.
All these scandals simply repeat themselves. The Liberals engage in unethical activites, when they get caught, they drag up everything and everyone that can deflect the damage away from them, the media buys into their claims, and the average Canadian at the end is not really sure who is blame but sure feels something is amiss in Ottawa. However, there is a breaking point that is out there somewhere when people will simply say enough is enough. The only way to inch closer to that point is to keep hammering away on these issues, even with all of their pitfalls. You’re dealing with the Liberals and if they can do one thing and one thing only, they can spin. There is no knockout punch with them. It’s a gruelling, tough, prolonged fight where both sides will get beat up. In the end, you can only hope that the punishment is worth it.
You’re all waving the white flag a little prematurely. The Globe is running a story today that senior Libs want Murphy and Dosanjh to step down, which means the CPC’s argument has traction (esp in the eyes of a media that never takes the CPC seriously). Furthermore, if the discrepencies on the tapes were just a technical glitch as the CPC claims, it only serves to make the Libs seem even more desperate and deceitful in launching a defense based on tampering.
Mud is starting to stick to the Liberals. If you don’t believe me, check out the SES poll on NealeNews this morning.
In today’s Post, there is an article A1 & A6. Anne Dawson et al mention that 2 Sikhs from BC have come forward to state that they know it was Mr. Dosanjh and the Liberals that first approached Mr. Grewal: “..said they visited the home of Sudesh Kalia (broker of the deal) on April 30 and were told (by Mr. Kalia)the Liberals were looking to lure a Tory MP. They said Mr. Kalia raised the topic during a conversation about rumours in the tight-knit Indo Canadian community that Mr. Grawal was up for a Senate posting. Kalia said “Ujjal asked me to get somebody to cross the floor, Gurmant is the guy, so I will talk to him”. Ujjal asked in Punjab, “Bring him to me at once.”
This is supported by the telephone company records of the 25?? calls that Mr. Kalia made to Mr. Grewal.
The audio expert the police are using has only said “It sounds like the tape has been altered”, that in no way means the tape has been altered.
The question must now be “has the tape been altered or not”? Show me da proof.
I’m with those who say keep hammering at it. As tin-foil-hattish it all is, we all know the Liberals have been doing this kind of stuff for a long time (heck, when I was a Liberal 13 years ago I saw the early form of it in the party just prior to getting into power). It’s taking time to sink in to a lot of Canadians’ heads how low some Liberals will stoop for power. Some MSM/commentators are beginning to ask the right questions (I’d like to see more of it unrelentingly, perhaps that, too, will come). The fact is, there is evidence this time (presuming the version the RCMP has doesn’t have the discrepancies the version the ‘experts’ have briefly studied). Given what we’ve seen already, it would take a pretty massive fraud in regards to the tapes on the CPC’s part for what’s there to be discounted (ie. actually splicing in words to form sentences that weren’t spoken). If the CPC did that, we should be prepared to admit that they are as crooked as the Liberals, and vote the Greens into power next time around (or the CHP, if you prefer).
Sometimes we on the right give up too easily. By the way, I think we should also put some pressure on the CPC to be forthright – I don’t think it was wise on their part to hold onto the tapes for so long before releasing them. Surely they can come up with an accurate transcription within 3 days. The only way I’d give the CPC some latitude on this one is if there was some question of the integrity of the tapes in handing them over to the RCMP (ie. handing them over to somebody competent who will see that they are investigated). It seems to me that their holding on to the tapes was calculated for political impact (ie. waiting until they’re sitting again this week). As tempting as that is, if it’s a (potential) criminal investigation, the evidence must be shown to be intact and untampered with – which becomes harder the longer it’s held onto.
if anyone thinks the Cdn public will view this as corruption they are as deluded as the CPC media communications dep’t.Doug
Doug,
I was not suggesting the CDN public would view this practice as corrupt. I was merely stating my opinion. If the CDN public viewed the practice as corrupt I wouldn’t need to bother stating my opinion and could involve myself in more pleasurable pursuits.
The only thing the CPC can do is to keep at it. Unfortunately, Mr. Grewal who was only trying to do something right is being painted as the bad guy. And the Liberals story line keeps going with “He made me do it”.
Now the Bloc has sided with the Liberals in the Finance Committee & voted down the Conservative motion on breaking up the budget. I wonder what they “have been or have not been” promised?
So we can only hope that maybe some of this stuff is beginning to rub off on the Liberal Party & soon.
Sorry folks, you should all know by now that this story has no legs. We’ve already seen where the Canadian voter (aka the Ontario voter) stands when it comes to corruption and scandal. They demonstrated it just a few weeks ago by returning the Liberals to the top of the polls, despite all the Gomery revelations. These are the same people who are “waiting for Gomery” whatever the heck that means. The Liberals are already sending out their scripts to CBC and CTV for them to memorize. Craig (your senate seat is this way) Oliver and Peter (liberal puppet sock) Mansbridge will do their best to make sure this all lands on Harper. So for gods sake, just give it up!
Blaming the victim seems to work in liberal politics. Remember when the Swift Boat Veterans questioned John Kerry’s war record last year? The MSM’s take on the story? Ignore the substance of the claims, and throw dirt on the accusers.
Give up? This story has legs. Perhaps not enough to turf the Liberals if an election were held tomorrow but this will help an awful lot when an election is eventually called. The Liberal’s are in the process of dying by a thousand cuts. The tapes themselves may not be the bones to this story but how the Liberal’s are reacting to it is surely giving it legs. It was sordid to begin with but now they’re blatantly lying about it.
The Conservatives sooner or later will come out with their platform offering “hope” and that could be the final surge to victory. Perhaps i’m being too optimistic but the Liberal’s have lost the moral high ground and are slowly but surely losing their credibility. By doing so, the Conservatives have almost ensured that any Liberal fear mongering regarding certain issues will fall on deaf ears. At least I hope so. I think a lot depends on when and how they unveil their platform. In the meantime they’ve done a hell of a good job of creating doubt regarding the Liberal brand.
NCF TO
Are you kidding about the Swift Boat Veterans? They were part of a smear campaign to paint Kerry as unAmerican. The US MSM were way too kind to them in the same way they are too kind to the Liberals and Martin in Canada. Unlike Bush and Cheney Kerry served voluntarily in Vietnam. The SBV hated the fact that Kerry became an antiwar afterward. If this is the type of thinkign that predominates in the CPC then there is no hope.
Any school principal or person involved in law enforcement knows that the most common tact taken by bullies or criminals is to blame the victim. This is often effect, but eventually backfires. The problem in this case is, that the bully and criminal has the MSM on their side. The content of the tapes, and the lies spoken by Paulie Martin have all been set aside to focus on the apparant tape tampering. If, the media were not bias, they would not allow the Liberals to so easily dictate the points of reference and content of the news. Furthermore, because none of the lies, corruption, constitutional abuse, and arrogance of the Liberal Party of Canada have swayed voters in Ontario, I put full blame on those same voters. In a democracy it is up to the public to yank the chain of corrupt and lying politicians. If this doesn’t happen, politicians will simply learn that corruption gets them what they want. Given the response of the media in general, and Ontarians in general, is it any wonder that Paul Martin can stand up in front of the media and spew whatever he wants to. He can lie, and never be called to account, either by the MSM or Ontarians. Great work if you can get it!
Doug: I hope your kidding with your take on the US MSM. The American MSM slagged the Swifties in 90% of it’s coverage. The Swifties got their message out via paid ads and the internet. Furthermore, I suppose you also didn’t hear about the incredible claims Kerry made about his military experiences, on tape, during interviews, that the MSM wouldn’t air because Kerry’s claims were so false. They protected Kerry. (ie: Kerry claims to have smuggled arms into Cambodia… when it is impossible that a navy operative would have come anywhere near Cambodia… Kerry is a liar many times over and was protected by the MSM)
Furthermore, the CPC is made up of free thinking people, and that includes Geopolitical opinion… are you suggesting that anyone who is pro-Bush, pro-Swiftboat Vets, pro-Chenney, pro-Iraq Democratization, etc., is damaging to the CPC?
Bullwinkle said:
The audio expert the police are using has only said “It sounds like the tape has been altered”, that in no way means the tape has been altered.
The question must now be “has the tape been altered or not”? Show me da proof.
No, that is by no means the question. The question should be why have Murphy and Dosanjh not yet stepped down?
Where has any audio expert that the police are using made ANY comments?? If the police are investigating the matter, why would they make any comments on that investigation until they have fully looked into the matter? You seem to mixing up the “expert” hired by the CBC to look into the tapes.
The statement “the tape only sounds like it has been altered” came from a news report issued by GlobalTV. The exact wording was “the audio expert which has worked with the police in the past says the tape SOUNDS like it has been altered.
I have asked Global for the name and credentials of this “expert” in order to follow up. I will keep you posted.
Of course the story has legs, or it wouldn’t still be generating headlines 2 weeks later. The Liberal’s fuss about a COPY of the tape is pushing the public
towards the notion that if the tapes turn out to be accurate then Dosanjh and Murphy MUST GO.
Again, no experts have examined the TAPE. Therefore no experts have even had a chance to hear any alterations or potential alterations to the TAPE.
Questions about who contacted who, is the tape tampered with, whose the bad guy, yada yada yada….are moot.
Point is if this didn’t have any legs the liberals would say jack about it and move on.
Where the ditherals are failing Polispin 101 is that they still refuse to “change the channel”. Teammartin refuses to stop drawing attention to the subject by trying to refute the proof that they where trying to influence a vote by crying victim.
Did they learn nothing from adscam?
Bet ol’ Cretch is bustin a gut right now watching Dither’s die a death by a thousand cuts.
For furhter clearity. The audio expert that made the statement is Not I repeat NOT working with the RCMP. He is an audio expert that has worked with the police in the past and has given expert testamony in court. His name is Stevan Pousak. The news story was carried on the Corus network as well this morning. I apologize if I made it sound as though he is currently working on the case with the RCMP.
What tapes? No one has reviewed the tapes yet. they have only looked a .mp3 or .wav files provided.
Until someone has looked at the orginals, there is really nothing anyone can say about the “tapes”.
ITs all Liberal spin and for some reason the press is letting the Liberals spin awway several hours of meetings because converted recordings have a few sections of “dead air” and a spike thay may or may not indicate that the fast forward button or a stop function was completed.
Don’t panic over the opinion expressed by the “expert” hired by the CBC to check out the Grewal tapes. After all, an “expert” hired by the CBC is an “expert” hired by the Liberals.Absolutely no difference in the two. Maybe someone could check this guys political party affiliation.
“By JANE TABER
Friday, June 3, 2005 Page A4
SENIOR POLITICAL WRITER; With reports from Bill Curry and Campbell Clark
OTTAWA — A senior Liberal MP wants the Prime Minister’s chief of staff, Tim Murphy, and Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh suspended from their posts until an investigation takes place into the growing scandal over the secretly taped negotiations between the two men and a Tory MP who was considering crossing the floor.
Sarnia MP Roger Gallaway says the situation is “totally odious” and “it shows the underbelly of politics that I think is quite unacceptable.”
“[Conservative Leader Stephen Harper] will have to deal with [Tory MP Gurmant Grewal, who made the tapes], but we have to deal with our own,” Mr. Gallaway said. “The use of the words ‘Senate’ and ‘foreign posting,’ even if no offer was made, is totally odious. There are several MPs who are remaining silent but who think Murphy and Dosanjh have crossed the threshold of acceptable political discourse.”
Mr. Gallaway was referring to the taped discussions between the three men just before the no-confidence vote on the budget two weeks ago.
“It just makes my skin crawl,” Mr. Gallaway said. He said he is receiving telephone calls from concerned constituents.”
“Liberal MP wants Dosanjh and Murphy suspended”
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Hammer the Liberals down; make them beg for mercy.
Keep on blogging; Remember the Swift Vets.
Down with the Liberal Socialist regime.
Grewal Tapes Roundup
Were the Grewal tapes doctored?
CFRA thought so.
The Libs say yes.
Grewal says no.
An �audio expert� says there is a �break in the tapes�, but can�t describe what might be missing.
And here are the �missing pieces�, courtesy the CPC.
Bad news, Paul; there�s nothing exculpatory for the Liberals here.
Conclusion? I can�t do better than Coyne.
Bottom line? Martin can claim that �no offer was made� until he is blue in the face; the entire country knows what was going on.
I realize that Liberal policy is founded on presuming that Canadians are a) disgusted with, and therefore disinterested in, politics, b) too lazy and apathetic to do anything about corruption in high places, c) too locked into the addiction cycle of the Trudeaupian nanny state to be willing to risk upsetting the apple cart, and d) dumber than dingo shit. But even Larry Lunchbox from Slippery Rock Falls watches CSI, so we all have a good idea of what it takes to make a court case. And here we’ve got it all:
– We�ve got motive.
– We�ve got opportunity.
– We�ve got precedent.
– We�ve got hard evidence.
– Hell, Martin even admitted that he was ready to meet Grewal and his wife to consummate their defection from the Tories � just like he consummated Be-loser.
And as I�ve said before, the law is clear:
119. (1) Every one who
(b) gives or offers, corruptly, to a person mentioned in paragraph (a) any money, valuable consideration, office, place or employment in respect of anything done or omitted or to be done or omitted by him in his official capacity for himself or another person,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
The. Law. Is. Clear.
More with links at:
http://www.rightthinkingpeople.blogspot.com
I find this whole issue of the “experts” examining copies of the tapes similar to the experts that CBS employed in the Bush Texas National Guard fiasco. The experts that CBS employed either saw only photocopies of the documents or heard them read over the phone.
Until the original tape is examined, these so-called experts are just blowing smoke. Would a real expert form a conclusive opinion from examining copies?
Another point.
If the liberals keep hyping on how the tape was possibly “doctored”, does this mean that the tapes in their present form, do contain incriminating evidence?
Liberals grade for Polispin 101 F-
Also cBS ignored any experts with opposing views, instead cherry-picking the only ones that fit their slant on the deception. They even went so far as using “experts” in fields not even remotely connected to what they were analyzing. Typical stuff that the pathetic Liebral mouthpiece CBC does when it suits their/Paully’s cause.
UPDATE! UPDATE!
Here’s a story on the CBC’s “expert”:
http://www.thepolitic.com/archives/2005/06/03/cbcs-forensic-expert-turns-out-to-be-record-producer-with-government-contracts/
“That�s the CBC�s big expert: an Ottawa producer-musician who calls himself a philosopher while hyping cheesy bands between day-gigs doing contracts for the Liberal government.
“Neither is he exactly �independent� from the CBC. In 1996, Dooher joined a few others to circulate an email petition from someone named �Studio Employee� to �save CBC radio.�
“So here�s the bottom line: The CBC hired a friendly record producer with government contracts to cast doubt upon the Grewal tapes to support their Liberal friends.”
I’m not suggesting I don’t think this is a serious matter – personally I would love nothing more than to finally see the liberals exposed for who/what they really are. Problem is we’ve all seen this before. Time and time again we hear about the so called “smoking gun” some issue, some revelation that gets conservatives all excited – finally we “got em we’re gonna bring those arrogant Liberals down”, and as usual, it just doesn’t stick (remember HRDC? Gun Control? Sahwinigate? Submarines & Helicopters? GST?). You can call this a death by a thousand cuts if you want, I just don’t think any of this resonates with people outside this message board. I predict the end result of all this will be just more negative reaction towards politicians in general, and towards the conservatives specifically.
John Brown, your last comment really irritates me. Not because it’s false, but exactly the opposite – it’s true. The Liberals have broken lots of high-profile promises (GST) over the past 12 years, outrageously ripped off taxpayers and they STILL outpoll the CPC in Ontario. What gives? What will it take for regime change? Do we have to tell Dubya that Canada is developing WMD’s so that he invades and takes out the Liberal Party and replaces it with a democracy?
Sorry Kate, but I can’t visit SDA for a little while. Reading about all this Liberal corruption destroying our country is making me physically ill.
CTV is now reporting that the CPC counter-claim, that the discrepancies in the Grewal tapes were caused by a technical problem, does not hold up:
Good grief. This just gets worse and worse for the Conservatives. They could have played this whole thing so well, but they’re too incompetent. Now they run the risk of making themselves appear to be no better than the Liberals.
I wonder how many people are going to think “Yeah, well look at the Tories – they splice together tapes to make the Liberals look bad.” Are people really going to trust them any more than they trust the Liberals?
In his column “A tale of two models: How we remain a European nation” (June 2) Lawrence Martin’s last paragraph provides a perfect example of what is wrong with the mindset of much of the Canadian media:
“The likelihood of change is remote. In Ottawa, Alberta and the West will continue to have the status of hinterland. In the struggle for our future, Canada will remain as close to the European model as the American one, which is the way, it seems, the people prefer it.”
In other words, Albertans in the “hinterland” are not part of the Canadian “people” (note Mr Martin does not write “the majority of the people”). The arrogance of this statement is only exceeded by Mr Martin’s failure to recognize the implication of what he writes.
This sort of thing happens constantly when journalists, while conceding the Conservatives’ strength in the West, then go on to say in the next sentence or so that the Conservatives’ problem is that they are too extreme (or whatever) for “Canadians” to accept: thereby denying the status of Canadian to a very large portion of the Western population. And, to repeat, those writing this stuff do not even see the logical consequence of what they’re saying.
Perhaps those notorious “Canadian values” do not include those of Albertans and they will draw the necessary inference.
Mark
Ottawa
The federal government paid 91% of its senior public servants a whopping $32 million in performance bonuses last year, government documents released yesterday show. Full Story :
http://www.cnews.canoe.ca
Not with cash in brown envelopes; with your tax dollars.
$32,000,000.00 of your income; they have won their war on poverty.
Bonuses for theft, corruption, lies, graft, & etc.
Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
BTW, did you know that between 10 – 15 million fire arms were imported legally into Canada since the start of the Fire Arms Registry?
Where are these firearms?
Who can say the number of illegal fire arms which have come in?
Bonuses of $32,000,000 for the Librano$ who, among other scandals, brought you the Fire Arms Registry.
Fire them all.
Down with National Socialism.
TimR,
Thanks for confirming what I said in a previous comment about the CBC “expert”
The SQUID knows!
Where did I read this a few weeks ago – I think it was on another Blog:
That Don Newman was hoping to follow in another former CBC employee’s footsteps (Clarkson) and hold out for appointment as Governor General.
Anybody – can you find that source?
So much for discussing how low will the Liberals go to use government appointments as bribes if they will also bribe members of the media who are supposed to be non-biased.
Do you think there are other high profile media reps out there whose reporting is suspect because they have self-interest in accepting “future 99.9% rewards” nudge nudge wink wink (to quote Murphy)