Paragraph K

Surely this is the Liberals' own "secret agenda" exposed...shhhh. Love your site

That was the Liberal plans from day 1 of the inquiry. Everyone knows that but eastern Canadian voters

That was the Liberal plans from day 1 of the inquiry. Everyone knows that but eastern Canadian voters

I also listened to Peter Warren today and what really unnerved me was what a political lightweight Chuck Cadman is. His lack of knowledge regarding the mandate of the Gomery Inquiry is very telling. What also disturbed me is his lack of indignation regarding the Liberal corruption.

Chuck says he became an MP based on a justice platform. Because of that he believes one shouldn't make a hasty decision until all the evidence is before you. Furthermore, he is waiting to hear from his constituents to see which way they want him to proceed. So far his constituents are wishing to hear Gomery's final report.

My take is that he will not vote to bring down the gov't until he hears the entire results of the Gomery Commission as well. I can't believe the critical vote has to rest with someone who in my opinion is not mentally tough.

Peter Warren was restraining himself from blasting Chuck, and instead kept reminding him to read Paragraph K in the Gomery mandate. It is a sad day when someone so crucial to Canada's political future is so ill-informed and will not hesitate to say so on national radio!

Keep in mind that Cadman is battling cancer - how much time has he spent in Ottawa recently? As for him being mentally tough, he got into politics after his son was murdered on the street for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, so I don't know that saying him not being "mentally tough" is necessarily being fair.

That being said, it IS distressing that he hasn't taken the time to inform himself, especially when he is a key player in the current game.

Let's hope he ran home & looked up paragraph k.

At last, at last! A plausible explanation for my past laments. I asked myself, "why on earth would PMPM want to stay in office as long as he does as his party dies a death of a thousand cuts from the Gomery revelations?" The answer is so neatly plain in the "Paragraph K."

The quote "without expressing any conclusion or recommendation regarding the civil or criminal liability of any person or organization" from Paragraph K" means that the whole inquiry will be shunted from the public eye and scrutiny because of the ensurance "that the conduct of the inquiry does not jeopardize any ongoing criminal investigation or criminal proceedings."

Marvelous. The whole thing will be buried in a publication ban after a meaningless report is issued (if not well before since the criminal trials begin in June). Plans to play the public as foolish, gullible dolts with banal, insulting rhetoric will be the order of the coming weeks. God how can I express my utter frustration at this sinister yet brilliant plan!

My goodness this PMPM is a clever git.

Schwarze:

"Plans to play the public as foolish, gullible dolts with banal, insulting rhetoric will be the order of the coming weeks."

Why should Paulie do anything else? It's been working in Ontario for decades. I started shaking my head big-time the day that Chretien assaulted that seperatist protestor, and nobody seemed to even raise an eyebrow. Bet you don't know that Chretien was involved in an even more violent assault years later. Yet, a majority of Ontarians kept voting him in. If that pack of Lemings voted in Chretien, imagine how prone they'll be to vote for puppy-dog eyes Paulie.

Cadman simply represents what far too many Canadians are like: they pride themselves on indecision. Yes but... but.... but of course... but I'm not sure... what if.... oh my... but then...

Someone, somewhere, has convinced a sizable constituency that indecision is a sign of intellectual reasoning and tolerance. In my opinion, it's a sign of lack in principles.

Guite:

Notice of Application for Funding

At Gomery Inquiry.

"The applicant has been generally recognized as a

"central figure", ..."

The applicant is Chuck Guite.

Very interesting, no?

http://www.gomery.ca/documents/applicationsforfunding/jcg.pdf

Kate,

Don't get too worked up. Gomery is quite clear that in his own mind he is allowed to cast blame. See this for more details.

Heh, small world. I met Gordon briefly last spring. He's good people.

No, Pete he's not - and this was confirmed last evening when I was talking to a federal crown prosecuter. Public Inquiries, by their nature, are not authorized to lay blame.

In fact, I suspect that if Gomery hinted that he might, he may very well have given Jean Chretien the ammunition he was looking for in the federal court of "bias".

MP Diane Ablonczy just brought up Paragraph K in Question Period.

I know I'm on a tangent here but...
With the reform and alliance dear as they were to my heart I was always amazed at the poor job they would do regarding rudimentary points for themselves. It took years to get a decent email system up and that still isn't up to snuff. I get emails about meetings after they happen.

They never gave riding candidates a list of how the person they were fighting voted on "sensitive issues"

They also nominated the candidates late for every election after 1993. What is the point of even showing up for a 4 week campaign? And in that 4 weeks you should start wading through Hansard looking for when Paul Martin voted to keep marriage between a man and a woman.

Yes I'm bitter someone there could write it in a daytimer they have research staff.

Para (k) is a surprise?

Was it not widely understood that it is unnecessary to wait for Gomery's recommendations to call an election? Once the gathering of testimony is complete, the evidence may be assessed by the voters, subject to whatever spin the parties impart - a process which would apply to the final document in any event. Gomery's recommendations are irrelevant to the determination by the voters whether the Liberals deserve to continue to sit on the government benches.

I 'm all tinfoiled up Andrew.
Could Brault Gaggliano and Guite walk because Gomery has infringed on their right to a fair criminal trial by casting dispersions of guilt.

Da Little Choker and Slithers can walk because Gomery can not assign blame and was too soft on them because he was afraid of being shut down for bias.
The retarded lib voters will vote lib again with their phony willfully blind clear consciences.
Somebody tell me this can't happen ...please

Once we get over 'Preparation K', the entertainment continues-with the Cruton appointed RCMP announcement: "No grounds for criminal charges", followed by the Fiberals 'defence', (by appointed lawyers-at taxpayer's expense), in a court of law, presided over by appointed judges!?!
Or, am I missing something here?